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destruction101

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Posted July 10, '11 8:23pm UTC

I believe that god does exist. In the times when Christ was on our Earth. The Romans documented this we have real time documents that say that Christ was on Earth. Beacuse of this I have come to the conclusion that if Christ exists then God exists.

Note the records that I am talking about are other than the bible. YES HE DOES EXIST!

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EmperorPalpatine

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Posted July 10, '11 8:34pm UTC

I figure it's better to believe than not to. If you're wrong, you didn't lose anything. If you're right, you live forever.

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Armed_Blade

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Posted July 10, '11 8:45pm UTC

I figure it's better to believe than not to. If you're wrong, you didn't lose anything. If you're right, you live forever.

pascals wager?

And some people say you do lose a lot. For example, freedoms [dietary or otherwise, doing what you want, etc], lack of progressivism in the world, freedom of guilt, happier life.

I don't buy into any of it since I think I can live just as happy of a life while believing, but whatever.

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loloynage2

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Posted July 10, '11 8:52pm UTC

I bring the light of the JB (Justin Bieber) church! The true faith! People of the world, god is already here! And you have to acknowledge him! Listen to his holy voice and you will be saved from sin. It's not too late! Support JB today!

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314d1

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Posted July 10, '11 8:54pm UTC

I figure it's better to believe than not to. If you're wrong, you didn't lose anything. If you're right, you live forever.

If your wrong, you could be eaten by the TBG, and live ten times the worst pain imaginable after you die. If your right, you get to kiss Yahweh's but for all eternity. Do you really want to risk it?

And some people say you do lose a lot. For example, freedoms [dietary or otherwise, doing what you want, etc], lack of progressivism in the world, freedom of guilt, happier life.

I don't buy into any of it since I think I can live just as happy of a life while believing, but whatever.

Which you do lose. Have you ever not believed? Whatever. I would rather do without angry fundamentalists blowing up towers and abortion centers, holding back scientific and social progress, and generally being a cancer on society.

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MageGrayWolf

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Posted July 10, '11 8:59pm UTC

The Romans documented this we have real time documents that say that Christ was on Earth.

What documents?

Beacuse of this I have come to the conclusion that if Christ exists then God exists.

How are you making this jump? Even if there was a real person who was the basis for Jesus, that doesn't follow that the magical aspects of the Biblical story are true.

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Armed_Blade

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Posted July 11, '11 12:12am UTC

If your wrong, you could be eaten by the TBG

Wtf?

Which you do lose. Have you ever not believed? Whatever. I would rather do without angry fundamentalists blowing up towers and abortion centers, holding back scientific and social progress, and generally being a cancer on society.

I never said I was a fundamentalist. My not eating Pork just leaves more for others, and if I happen to pray five times a day then at least I wash myself before, which makes me cleaner and less likely to spread a disease, and by learning to read in Arabic I only help my mental development as a child. It's not all bad.

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akqpars

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Posted July 11, '11 12:18am UTC

If your wrong, you could be eaten by the TBG, and live ten times the worst pain imaginable after you die. If your right, you get to kiss Yahweh's but for all eternity. Do you really want to risk it?

You speak irrelevant by your arrogance. Is there claim like that or it is a cheesy joke?

How are you making this jump? Even if there was a real person who was the basis for Jesus, that doesn't follow that the magical aspects of the Biblical story are true.

Look here, they are shooting a rooster with a talisman on it and it dont get any damage. You may wind it at 3:35.

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314d1

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Posted July 11, '11 12:26am UTC

Wtf?

The TBG eats people who believe in any religion after they die, which is worse then your hell. He has as much a chance existing as any god, which makes your claim "Do it and gain everything or lose nothing" false.

I never said I was a fundamentalist. My not eating Pork just leaves more for others, and if I happen to pray five times a day then at least I wash myself before, which makes me cleaner and less likely to spread a disease, and by learning to read in Arabic I only help my mental development as a child. It's not all bad.

No you didn't, but logically without religion we wouldn't have to deal with fundamentalist. So by this logic, not eating anything would be the best since there would be more for others? And I am fairly certain that simply washing your hands or taking a shower every once and a while is just as effective as ritually cleaning yourself every day. Those things could be easily done without religion. Many of the deaths religion has caused, however, would be much more difficult to justify without religion.

You speak irrelevant by your arrogance. Is there claim like that or it is a cheesy joke?

Its a claim. Like I said to the other guy, it makes your claim "Gain everything and lose nothing" false, especially do to the fact that the TBG has just as good a chance, if not better, than your god of existing.

Look here, they are shooting a rooster with a talisman on it and it dont get any damage. You may wind it at 3:35.

I didn't watch the video, but I can smell the BS threw the link. Or would you happen to have a copy of this talisman I can borrow for independent testing in a laboratory setting?

[quote]Wtf?[/quote]\r\n\r\nThe TBG eats people who believe in any religion after they die, which is worse then your hell. He has as much a chance existing as any god, which makes your claim "Do it and gain everything or lose nothing" false. \r\n\r\n[quote]I never said I was a fundamentalist. My not eating Pork just leaves more for others, and if I happen to pray five times a day then at least I wash myself before, which makes me cleaner and less likely to spread a disease, and by learning to read in Arabic I only help my mental development as a child. It's not all bad.[/quote]\r\n\r\nNo you didn't, but logically without religion we wouldn't have to deal with fundamentalist. So by this logic, not eating anything would be the best since there would be more for others? And I am fairly certain that simply washing your hands or taking a shower every once and a while is just as effective as ritually cleaning yourself every day. Those things could be easily done without religion. Many of the deaths religion has caused, however, would be much more difficult to justify without religion. \r\n\r\n[quote]You speak irrelevant by your arrogance. Is there  claim like that or it is a cheesy joke? [/quote]\r\n\r\nIts a claim. Like I said to the other guy, it makes your claim "Gain everything and lose nothing" false, especially do to the fact that the TBG has just as good a chance, if not better, than your god of existing. \r\n\r\n[quote]Look here, they are shooting a rooster with a talisman on it and it dont get any damage. You may wind it at 3:35.[/quote]\r\n\r\nI didn't watch the video, but I can smell the BS threw the link. Or would you happen to have a copy of this talisman I can borrow for independent testing in a laboratory setting?

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Armed_Blade

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Posted July 11, '11 12:39am UTC

The TBG eats people who believe in any religion after they die, which is worse then your hell. He has as much a chance existing as any god, which makes your claim

No, he has no popular backing, less history in script [whether it be false or not], and he's the birth of some atheist rant.

No you didn't, but logically without religion we wouldn't have to deal with fundamentalist

So what you mean to say, is that Atheists don't give a **** about anything?
That's highly unlikely. I'm sure if an Atheist believes in the principal of idea X enough, he will blow up something to do it.

And I am fairly certain that simply washing your hands or taking a shower every once and a while is just as effective as ritually cleaning yourself every day.

Yeah, but I get a reminder to do it 5 times a day.
Other people just do it when they use the bathroom, and that rarely happens in public restrooms.

Many of the deaths religion has caused, however, would be much more difficult to justify without religion.

Right, because Humans have not, for once in the history of the earth, fought over anything else?
Religion has done plenty of good things on Earth. You hear the word 'Crusade' and you start to rage on it. In truth, I'm sure the Crusades would have happened anyway. Europe had massive territorial losses to Arabs during the era and adding the Eastern coast of Israel back to their list of ports would have been a great thing for them.

[quote]The TBG eats people who believe in any religion after they die, which is worse then your hell. He has as much a chance existing as any god, which makes your claim [/quote]\r\n\r\nNo, he has no popular backing, less history in script [whether it be false or not], and he's the birth of some atheist rant.\r\n\r\n[quote]No you didn't, but logically without religion we wouldn't have to deal with fundamentalist[/quote]\r\n\r\nSo what you mean to say, is that Atheists don't give a **** about anything?\r\nThat's highly unlikely. I'm sure if an Atheist believes in the principal of idea X enough, he will blow up something to do it. \r\n [quote]And I am fairly certain that simply washing your hands or taking a shower every once and a while is just as effective as ritually cleaning yourself every day. [/quote]\r\nYeah, but I get a reminder to do it 5 times a day. \r\nOther people just do it when they use the bathroom, and that rarely happens in public restrooms.\r\n[quote]Many of the deaths religion has caused, however, would be much more difficult to justify without religion.[/quote]\r\nRight, because Humans have not, for once in the history of the earth, fought over anything else?\r\nReligion has done plenty of good things on Earth. You hear the word 'Crusade' and you start to rage on it. In truth, I'm sure the Crusades would have happened anyway. Europe had massive territorial losses to Arabs during the era and adding the Eastern coast of Israel back to their list of ports would have been a great thing for them.

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314d1

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Posted July 11, '11 1:07am UTC

No, he has no popular backing, less history in script [whether it be false or not], and he's the birth of some atheist rant.

Oh, Sorry. I forgot that reality was decided by popular backing. Oh wait, you are saying that it isn't? Your saying that this sarcasm is getting annoying? Oh right.

So here is the false historical backing you want.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWj5uVwxhbR4gxPsfYp9lXhh6-el1PisGgQ8OuyGRzrrXgBkOj

See? A bear! Where could anyone think of that besides divine inspiration via the TBG? That is obviously TBG doctrine that has simply was written by prehistoric people. And it gets better, this doesn't contradict itself!

So what you mean to say, is that Atheists don't give a **** about anything?
That's highly unlikely. I'm sure if an Atheist believes in the principal of idea X enough, he will blow up something to do it.

I have never heard of an atheist terrorizing because their god told them to, have you?

Lets take a little look around the world, shalt we? Oh look, some religious bigotry in the form of homophobia over here. What is that they are shouting? "God hates figs? God hates bags?" apparently my hearing isn't to good, but this god seems to hate something badly. Now over here to some angry guys wielding Ak-47s. What are they shouting? Oh yes, there god wants them to do this. Now lets go back in history a little bit. Oh, look, someone is blowing up two towers. Now we are going further, now what is that angry guy with a strange mustache saying? I don't know, I don't speak German, but it seems to have something to do with being superior do to an all powerful creator and being a better race than someone else. Now some angry guys with swords are attacking some worthless desert land. They say their god lived there, and that is the only reason they are invading this otherwise useless land.

All because their god wants them to.

Yeah, but I get a reminder to do it 5 times a day.
Other people just do it when they use the bathroom, and that rarely happens in public restrooms.

Many people I know do it before meals, which gives them a reminder that doesn't kill anyone.

Right, because Humans have not, for once in the history of the earth, fought over anything else?

Of course we have. But without religion, we would only be fighting for those reasons, not because some bearded sky man told us to.

Religion has done plenty of good things on Earth.

Such as?

You hear the word 'Crusade' and you start to rage on it. In truth, I'm sure the Crusades would have happened anyway. Europe had massive territorial losses to Arabs during the era and adding the Eastern coast of Israel back to their list of ports would have been a great thing for them.

Now you must be kidding. Why would the English waste a massive amount of resources on an entirely useless land? It is in the desert, can't be farmed, has no natural resources that could be used at that time, was to far away to be controlled properly, and was pretty much just a horrible place. Why, exactly, would they attack that town other than religious motivation?

[quote]No, he has no popular backing, less history in script [whether it be false or not], and he's the birth of some atheist rant.[/quote]\r\n\r\nOh, Sorry. I forgot that reality was decided by popular backing. Oh wait, you are saying that it isn't? Your saying that this sarcasm is getting annoying? Oh right.\r\n\r\nSo here is the false historical backing you want. [img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWj5uVwxhbR4gxPsfYp9lXhh6-el1PisGgQ8OuyGRzrrXgBkOj[/img]\r\n\r\nSee? A bear! Where could anyone think of that besides divine inspiration via the TBG? That is obviously TBG doctrine that has simply was written by prehistoric people. And it gets better, this doesn't contradict itself! \r\n\r\n[quote]So what you mean to say, is that Atheists don't give a **** about anything?\r\nThat's highly unlikely. I'm sure if an Atheist believes in the principal of idea X enough, he will blow up something to do it. [/quote]\r\n\r\nI have never heard of an atheist terrorizing because their god told them to, have you? \r\n\r\nLets take a little look around the world, shalt we? Oh look, some religious bigotry in the form of homophobia over here. What is that they are shouting? "God hates figs? God hates bags?" apparently my hearing isn't to good, but this god seems to hate something badly. Now over here to some angry guys wielding Ak-47s. What are they shouting? Oh yes, there god wants them to do this. Now lets go back in history a little bit. Oh, look, someone is blowing up two towers. Now we are going further, now what is that angry guy with a strange mustache saying? I don't know, I don't speak German, but it seems to have something to do with being superior do to an all powerful creator and being a better race than someone else. Now some angry guys with swords are attacking some worthless desert land. They say their god lived there, and that is the only reason they are invading this otherwise useless land. \r\n\r\nAll because their god wants them to. \r\n[quote]\r\nYeah, but I get a reminder to do it 5 times a day.\r\nOther people just do it when they use the bathroom, and that rarely happens in public restrooms. [/quote]\r\n\r\nMany people I know do it before meals, which gives them a reminder that doesn't kill anyone.\r\n\r\n[quote]Right, because Humans have not, for once in the history of the earth, fought over anything else?[/quote]\r\n\r\nOf course we have. But without religion, we would only be fighting for those reasons, not because some bearded sky man told us to. \r\n\r\n[quote]Religion has done plenty of good things on Earth.[/quote]\r\n\r\nSuch as?\r\n\r\n[quote]You hear the word 'Crusade' and you start to rage on it. In truth, I'm sure the Crusades would have happened anyway. Europe had massive territorial losses to Arabs during the era and adding the Eastern coast of Israel back to their list of ports would have been a great thing for them.[/quote]\r\n\r\nNow you must be kidding. Why would the English waste a massive amount of resources on an entirely useless land? It is in the desert, can't be farmed, has no natural resources that could be used at that time, was to far away to be controlled properly, and was pretty much just a horrible place. Why, exactly, would they attack that town other than religious motivation?

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Posted July 11, '11 1:13am UTC

I believe god exists not only because its my religion but i would rather go up there and just be proved wrong than to go to hell because i didnt believe... just saying

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Eli1010

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Nomad

Posted July 11, '11 1:15am UTC

yes

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314d1

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Nomad

Posted July 11, '11 1:22am UTC

I believe god exists not only because its my religion but i would rather go up there and just be proved wrong than to go to hell because i didnt believe... just saying

Being eaten by the TBG is worse then hell, so you better stop believing.

yes

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dair5

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Posted July 11, '11 1:25am UTC

I mostly agree with armed_blade, I really doubt the world would be at peace with out religon. You can put two atheist in an in closed space and they will fight over something. People are natraully greedy, paranoid and violent. If you take away religon they'll find some other reason to be just as greedy, paranoid and violent.

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