lol Cinna, I love you man and I've missed the hell out of you, but I still cannot for the life of me understand your logic. We'll just leave it at that.
Who says I don't? I'm not risking presents under the tree by abandoning a belief that costs me nothing Just like I don't risk eternal ****ation by abandoning a religion that costs me nothing!
You still may just be risking ****ation. Your looking at it that if you believe and it's real your safe, if it's not real then it doesn't matter. However your belief isn't the only one. First off there are over 10,000 different religions and even out of all of those to pick from it's still possible that non of them have it right and the truth is something no one has thought of. But let's just say Christianity is the correct choice. You still have nearly 35,000 variations to pick from. So even if you got the religion right you could be doing it wrong. So believing "just in case" is like playing a lottery when you don't even know if there's a winning number let alone a jackpot.
My comment on avoiding Hell was a bit of a hyperbole. I practice because I was raised Catholic and I go to a Catholic school; no lies. My schools have not helped me in the least defend my faith so I had to do all the discovering for myself, and arming myself with logic that makes sense at least to me, I would be inclined to believe it. What I'm saying is if I had been raised Muslim, I might be Muslim still. But simply because Catholicism was my own bored journey of self-discovery, It's what makes the most sense to me.
That is a terrible reason to believe, isn't it? And the same can ring true for Santa Clause (Do you seriously believe in him?). Why not dable in secular study, such as The God Delusion?
My comment on avoiding Hell was a bit of a hyperbole. I practice because I was raised Catholic and I go to a Catholic school; no lies. My schools have not helped me in the least defend my faith so I had to do all the discovering for myself, and arming myself with logic that makes sense at least to me, I would be inclined to believe it. What I'm saying is if I had been raised Muslim, I might be Muslim still. But simply because Catholicism was my own bored journey of self-discovery, It's what makes the most sense to me.
[quote]It depends on your religion Ones belief doesn't effect what is and isn't reality. Well, we mormons believe, (and no we are not polygamists!) that you go to spirit paradise or spirit prison until the second coming of Jesus Christ to the Earth. Then, everyone is sorted into one of the three kingdoms of everlasting glory, depending on how we were here on Earth. I geuss that you can all say we are crazy, but it's what we believe. Again I have to ask why do you believe this?
We believe this because of everything that has been revealed to us through our prophet. I think that anybody who says that the belief dictates where they go for eternity is wrong, no offense. I think that there is only one place to go, but we don't know for sure quite yet, and we will find out when we die.
We believe this because of everything that has been revealed to us through our prophet.
Doesn't the rest of your post kind of contradict believing what this guy had to say? Also why believe this guy claiming to receiving messages from supernatural beings and not any of the thousand of others making the same claim? In other words what makes him a credible source.
I think that anybody who says that the belief dictates where they go for eternity is wrong, no offense.
Non taken, in fact I agree. As I said before, "Ones belief doesn't effect what is and isn't reality."
I think that there is only one place to go, but we don't know for sure quite yet, and we will find out when we die.
Why would there have to be a place to go at all? What we do know is that there is no evidence for such an existence. That would mean anyone describing hat such an existence is like and how to get there (like prophets have done) are likely just making it up.
lol, you caught that too? Well, I suppose he could believe in an afterlife without a deity, but then who would forgive everyone of whatever needs forgiving?
I personally was born into the religion, so I believe in it, I just don't know for sure exactly everything that is said. The proof for our prophet's claims is the spirit revealing to us in our hearts what is true and what is not. (I haven't felt this, so I can't claim it.) Many prophets have described parts of our afterlife because of the "chinese telephone" effect. Everything is a copy of a copy, and so it may not be true. So, our afterlife is true because it is not a copy of a saying. So, overall, the afterlife may be true for me, it may not, I don't know. However, basically everyone else in my faith believes that our prophet was true completely.
Oh, and 44Flames, an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in an afterlife, a God, or anything. I think (and all other Mormons) that we go to heaven for all eternity, just a different degree of it. Every other Christian believes we go to heaven or hell, one of the two.
