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44Flames
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Do we continue life in HEAVEN for EVER and what would we do if that happened?

OR do we continue live in HELL for EVER suffering because we all sinned?

This is probably the hardest question in the world to answer but I want to know what you think will happen to us?

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TheGr8est
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I believe that after a person dies, he goes up to heaven wher G-D weighs his good deeds against his sins, and depending on that, he goes either to paradise or to hell.

Avorne
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I believe that after a person dies, he goes up to heaven wher G-D weighs his good deeds against his sins, and depending on that, he goes either to paradise or to hell.


Why do you believe this? What evidence/proof (outside of Holy Books, judging by your speech you're Jewish, so no Torah and just to be safe - nothing from the rest of the Tanakh) do you have for it?
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I believe that after a person dies, he goes up to heaven wher G-D weighs his good deeds against his sins, and depending on that, he goes either to paradise or to hell.

That is pretty much what ancient egyptians believed to happen. Your heart is weighted against the feather of Ma'at that holds all your deeds in life, and if it is lighter you go to the afterlife (Yaru), but if it is heavier it is devoured by Ammut, the devourer, and those whose heart has been devoured are gone forever.
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You go into the ground forever

VastEvilness
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We don't go anywhere after we die, we're cremated then our ashes are within a loved ones house, or in the air or we're in the earth where our bodies are left to rot.

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Jewish, so no Torah and just to be safe


Nothing from the new testament. Jews have the old testament (Torah).
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What I believe is, we don't go anywhere after we die, if we're buried, our corpses will just be lying there in a coffin under the ground for the remaining of time until their bodies rot.

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Maybe were bound to another life, quite possibly nothing like we've ever experienced, something that of a dream.


We would first need evidence of this being the case. What we do know is there are physical aspects linked to ever trait that has been associated with soul. We have even seen these trait dramatically change by having these physical aspects altered. That seems rather strange if these traits are suppose to come from an external supernatural source rather then a physical one.

It's best to think positive, and live your life in the present and forget this topic if you have trouble sleeping at night, don't let these topic bug you, random reader.


There are plenty of positive aspects to a materialist view. With a materialistic stance we could possibly find ways to preserve the mind in a far less fragile form. It means with such a view we stand a chance of concurring death, at least to the extent that such a term would be virtually irrelevant. With a dualistic view we couldn't possibly do this as such aspects of ourselves would be forever out of our control.
You say live in the present, but if we are to go to better places after death doing so would seem pretty much meaningless. With a dualistic nature where we keep going on for eternity, life becomes a trivial thing.
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As far as we know we go nowhere, just eternal blackness. Religions have had there views about the unknown and have interesting theories. Some believe in Heaven, and some believe in reincarnation. Whether they believe it because they want it to be so, or if they truly put themselves in a state of mind to absolutely think it is real, is up to them. But i view religions only to be theories of life and not factual.

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It's best to think positive, and live your life in the present and forget this topic if you have trouble sleeping at night, don't let these topic bug you, random reader.


After you die time becomes meaningless and as your rot you become part of this world/galaxy/universe. You become more than just a human you a unified and become part of this beautiful cycle.

With a dualistic nature where we keep going on for eternity, life becomes a trivial thing.


Yep, but the only this you will miss with be a consciousness to experience it. But who knows, maybe we will or something totally different.


I believe that after a person dies, he goes up to heaven wher G-D weighs his good deeds against his sins, and depending on that, he goes either to paradise or to hell.


Meh, heaven seems boring, having some almighty self justified pr**k decide where I go based on his biases, nah I rather just continue the cycle of the universe.
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Again seems pretty petty of God to require this. I mean really just how much ego stroking does this deity need anyway?

lol. That was pretty funny. thumbs up.
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Again seems pretty petty of God to require this. I mean really just how much ego stroking does this deity need anyway?


Excuse me? Read the Bible. It says that God is all powerful. He made the universe. BY TALKING.
I believe that after a person dies, he goes up to heaven where G-D weighs his good deeds against his sins, and depending on that, he goes either to paradise or to hell.


I don't like people who still call themselves Christian/believe in Heaven who think this. It's NOT RIGHT. Jesus forgave a thief in his dying moments and the thief went to Heaven. You aren't on some sort of ethical banking system; it whether you believe that He lived a perfect life, and died a cruel, painful, and unjust death and then rose from the grave, etc.

Meh, heaven seems boring, having some almighty self justified pr**k decide where I go based on his biases, nah I rather just continue the cycle of the universe.


Would that be a bicycle, a unicycle,or a tricycle? And who began the cycle? Do this: walk in a circle for 20 minutes. Tell me where you are after you're finished.
And please know what ACTUALLY happens in Heaven (read a Bible, not die) before insulting it.
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Excuse me? Read the Bible. It says that God is all powerful. He made the universe. BY TALKING.

So? That does not exclude a huge ego.
It's NOT RIGHT. Jesus forgave a thief in his dying moments and the thief went to Heaven. You aren't on some sort of ethical banking system; it whether you believe that He lived a perfect life, and died a cruel, painful, and unjust death and then rose from the grave, etc.

Why isn't it right? It certainly is more fair, and sins only make sense when you really take them into account. In christianism a guy can sin all his life, murder people, r*pe women, abuse children, and when he grows old and senile he feels sorry, accepts jesus as his saviour and gets entrance to heaven without a blink.
THAT seems not right to me.
And please know what ACTUALLY happens in Heaven (read a Bible, not die) before insulting it.

Are you sure that what we know of how heaven would look like isn't just wishful thinking? What did god himself say in the bible would it look like? Maybe he just said it would be great and people interpreted the milk and honey rivers?
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Excuse me? Read the Bible. It says that God is all powerful. He made the universe. BY TALKING.


Yeah that doesn't help God look less petty when he commands that we worship him. You do realize your claiming the universe was brought into existence by someone saying abracadabra, right? (Aramaic language abra "to create" cadabra "as I say&quot

And please know what ACTUALLY happens in Heaven (read a Bible, not die) before insulting it.


Okay.
Revelations 4:1- (NIV)
After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this."
At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it.
And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and carnelian. A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne.
Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads.
From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.
Also before the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal. In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back.
The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle.
Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under his wings. Day and night they never stop saying: "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come."
Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever,
the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne, and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:

So basically a bunch of weird looking creatures never stop giving glory to God and every time they do those in heaven have to give praise to God. This really how you want to spend eternity?
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Opps got distracted by the cat. That's Revelations 4:1-10.

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