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halogunner
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what part of illegal dont you understand


why do people think that its not a good idea to put them back in mexico?

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whimsyboy
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Well from what I know about the subject, most of them emigrate here because of the poor quality of life there.

Have you ever thought of putting yourself in their situations? I mean, would you rather you and your family starve slowly/become wandering and homeless, or abide by the rules of a neighboring country? Obviously, you would choose to get an easy job here to help put food on the table and a roof over your head.

Also, many big companies aren't opposed to it because they can have those workers and pay them the minimum without a higher chance of Union, strikes, requests for raises, better worker rights etc. Obviously, most members of the middle and lower classes are usually opposed because it cuts in on their income or whether they have a job or not.

Another reason could be that if we actually took it seriously, then we'd have to work very hard, pouring in unscrupulous amounts of money, time, and workforce into doing something that isn't as important as many of the problems we have already, including overseas conflict, massive international debt, education, healthcare, you name it. We just can't afford to deal with it on such a big scale so that if makes a big difference.

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Another reason could be that if we actually took it seriously, then we'd have to work very hard, pouring in unscrupulous amounts of money, time, and workforce into doing something that isn't as important as many of the problems we have already, including overseas conflict, massive international debt, education, healthcare, you name it. We just can't afford to deal with it on such a big scale so that if makes a big difference.


Part of our debt comes from illegal immigrants, who don't pay taxes but get money from the government.
Hypermnestra
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what part of illegal dont you understand

Maybe the part where you misspelled it?

why do people think that its not a good idea to put them back in mexico?

Well, here are some reasons.
1. Some illegal immigrants have been here for their entire lives. Is it fair to dislocate them and send them back to Mexico?
2. Sending illegal immigrants back would take a lot of time, effort, and money that could be much better spent.
The others have pretty much been covered by Whimsy.
locoace3
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Part of our debt comes from illegal immigrants, who don't pay taxes but get money from the government.


i'm pretty sure breaking you back in 100 degree heat picking things and other various jobs with minimum wages counts


they shouldn't care of course some are here to sell drugs but let the families who want a better life from starvation stay PLEASE
halogunner
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most money they earn goes right back to their country

alot of them only stay here for a few years

they are a big factor of what is messing up our economy

and once again what part of illegal dont you understand

locoace3
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most money they earn goes right back to their country



to the rest of their starving families! should my dad (not illegal) be sent back to Mexico because he sends money to his family there my family there is poor does it make me evil because i don't buy american?
halogunner
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i dont care were they send the money as long as they are legal

plus (unrelated to lolaces response)

they cause alot of gang violence killing legal americans

locoace3
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they cause alot of gang violence killing legal americans


proof?


i dont care were they send the money as long as they are legal


what makes it so bad if they send money and are illegal?
Hypermnestra
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most money they earn goes right back to their country

To their poor, uneducated families.

alot of them only stay here for a few years

I don't see how that matters.

they are a big factor of what is messing up our economy

That...and the Americans(legal Americans) buying shit they can't afford.

and once again what part of illegal dont you understand

There's such a thing as stupid laws, just saying.
For example, you can't work or do chores on Sunday or you could end up in jail.
Joe96
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They should, but if they do they will come back again. I think that if you're illegal, you have no rights in America except the basic rights of a human being. If you're an illegal, You shouldn't:
.vote
.own property
.reap benefits
.get a job
.be here!!!
.petition for your rights
.feel entitled to anything here
.expect people to understand Spanish if you don't try to understand English
I also think that people need to start building up border security and enforce harder punishments on illegals, because they don't belong here.
If they really want to be citizens, they should become legal.

locoace3
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They should, but if they do they will come back again. I think that if you're illegal, you have no rights in America except the basic rights of a human being. If you're an illegal, You shouldn't:
.vote
.own property
.reap benefits
.get a job
.be here!!!
.petition for your rights
.feel entitled to anything here
.expect people to understand Spanish if you don't try to understand English
I also think that people need to start building up border security and enforce harder punishments on illegals, because they don't belong here.
If they really want to be citizens, they should become legal.



why do they have to learn english? america doesn't have an official language

Official language(s) None
-wikipedia



why shouldn't they be here? they can't afford to survive in mexico
Joe96
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they cause alot of gang violence killing legal americans


They do. Half of my school now is Hispanic [not sure how much is illegal] but there are alot of Hispanic gangs (Latin Kings, Satan Disciples, etc.) in my school.
Do I see alot of gang violence?
Like one fight so far in school.
Are there alot of drugs?
The first few days of my Freshman year I saw a dude smoking a joint (I could tell the way it was wrapped) and this one guy from my middle school who I used to have lunch with [white dude] is now a drug dealer.
So there are gangs, but I don't see alot of them.
halogunner
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they can afford to survive there if they make the right choices

locoace3
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they can afford to survive there if they make the right choices


have you ever been to Mexico i refuse to even take you seriously if you don't even know what it's like there IT IS RELAVENT
Joe96
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why do they have to learn english? america doesn't have an official language

That may be true, but it is the dominant language and most illegals don't even try to learn the language. Most of them are mean and lazy and give bad names to the immigrants who were smart enough to become legal citizens.
why shouldn't they be here? they can't afford to survive in mexico

Why can't they sign some paperwork? Follow our rules or get out.
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