Exactly! Halogunner is spot on. Imagine how much money is being stolen from Americans with all those millions of people reaping American's benefits, competing for jobs, resources, and basically everything else. Some will come over here illegally (one example is Obama's aunt who isn't Mexican but still illegal) and think they're "entitled" to things just because they were here for so long or because they had such a hard life (which I'm not saying they didn't). But America doesn't work that way. If Mexico is a bigger economic power in the future, how would you feel about Americans crossing illegally and stealing your taxdollars and not learning how to speak spanish?
Exactly! Halogunner is spot on. Imagine how much money is being stolen from Americans with all those millions of people reaping American's benefits, competing for jobs, resources, and basically everything else. Some will come over here illegally (one example is Obama's aunt who isn't Mexican but still illegal) and think they're "entitled" to things just because they were here for so long or because they had such a hard life (which I'm not saying they didn't). But America doesn't work that way. If Mexico is a bigger economic power in the future, how would you feel about Americans crossing illegally and stealing your taxdollars and not learning how to speak spanish?
so because they can't afford to pay for a visa should be treated like a person to lazy to pay taxes (american tax evaders)
American tax evaders are just as bad when it comes to not paying taxes, but at least they are here legally. Are they a little dumb for buying more than they could afford? Absolutely! That's a big part of what sunk the economy.
Imagine how much money is being stolen from Americans with all those millions of people reaping American's benefits, competing for jobs, resources, and basically everything else. Some will come over here illegally (one example is Obama's aunt who isn't Mexican but still illegal) and think they're "entitled" to things just because they were here for so long or because they had such a hard life (which I'm not saying they didn't). But America doesn't work that way. If Mexico is a bigger economic power in the future, how would you feel about Americans crossing illegally and stealing your taxdollars and not learning how to speak spanish?
Ahem, hyper. You forget that if people aren't legal, they aren't taxed as they aren't legal citizens, so technically 100% of illegal immigrants don't pay taxes.
[quote=Joe96]America doesn't work that way. If Mexico is a bigger economic power in the future, how would you feel about Americans crossing illegally and stealing your taxdollars and not learning how to speak spanish?[/quote] [quote=Locoace3]sorry for them[/quote] Assuming "them" are the illegal Americans, you are saying it is right for Mexicans to illegally cross the border, but it is wrong if Americans were to cross the border into Mexico if they were wealthier than America?
Ahem, hyper. You forget that if people aren't legal, they aren't taxed as they aren't legal citizens, so technically 100% of illegal immigrants don't pay taxes.
Indeed, but my point is you can't really use that immigrants don't pay taxes argument because, hey, Americans don't pay taxes either.
The racial or ethnic composition of the 42.5 million non-payers roughly mirrors the demographics of American tax filers as a whole. For example, white Americans are 83 percent of total taxpayers, and the percentage of zero-tax filers who are white is 79 percent. African Americans are roughly 13 percent of total taxpayers and 16 percent of zero-tax filers. Asian Americans comprise 3.6 percent of total taxpayers and 3.2 percent of zero-tax filers.
That said, the percentage of non-payers within each ethnic or racial group does vary: 28.6 percent of Asian Americans tax filers get back every dollar withheld, 31.1 percent of white American tax filers will owe nothing, and 41.7 percent of African Americans will file a tax return with no liability.
Absent from these categories are Hispanic Americans. Within Census data, race and ethnic Hispanic origin are not comparable concepts because a Hispanic individual can be of any race. As a result, Hispanics Americans must be considered separately from racial characteristics. Hispanics make up 15 percent of the 42.5 million individuals or households that paid no income taxes in 2004. In contrast, they made up roughly 10 percent of all 131 million taxable American households.
Wow. Alright first of all, Halogunner, they have asked for evidence pertaining to your arguments a number of times, and you have yet to provide any, but still ramble on about your opinions.
Second of all, you kinda are being bigoted about illegal immigrants, seeing as how "they cause alot of gang violence killing legal Americans", and Joe providing biased interpretations of gang violence, which sums up to one fight and one guy smoking a joint.
And another thing. If you want to argue effectively, use proper citations...Come on guys, I know for a fact you googled it out your butts and pretended to read it. For example:
[quote=Joe96]Here's a link.[/quote]
Illegal Immigration causes coal mining expansion in the Appalachian Mountains!? Oh heavens! We have to stop them!
And for the continuous hatred for the racial immigration we have here, including the Mexican immigrants we have, those that are in the process of becoming an American know more about America than we average citizens do.
Of course, we are native citizens of America, so we should be able to pass the citizenship exam with a 100% score, right? Because we are natives and should know everything about America, right?
