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Renjineon
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wow can you believe this one event starts a huge reaction amoung alot. News, Ellen, Opra, and many others my only problem is why didnt they see this sooner with bullying well give your opinions.

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Asherlee
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Craze, please check your profile before you post again.

locoace3
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yeah, if you dont want to be bullied, dont be 'weird' but some kids cant help it, like cause they have autism and stuff, and people who make fun of those people should die slowly in a death filled with razor blades and lemon juice. but if someone is purposely acting like a donghead they should get teased in my opinion


that's why and if someone trys to take the miserable approach there's a 50/50 chance school will just become a shooting range with fully automated targets :/

but autistic kids have special ed so that won't happen

PS: you- i lost the danm game!
ShadowArcher
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I was bullied at Infant school but I did not have any thing wrong with me and also when I wasn't was clanged to a teacher because of the bully I used to come home with at least 1 bruise from the bully every day and btw I am British.

locoace3
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I was bullied at Infant school but I did not have any thing wrong with me and also when I wasn't was clanged to a teacher because of the bully I used to come home with at least 1 bruise from the bully every day and btw I am British.


infant school is different thats why it's called infant school lil' kids will beat you up for no reason whatsoever were talking about like middle school or highschool which is the worst
locoace3
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I am at highschool


that's nice if you could've made that longer so it would be spam that would've been great but were talking about bullying there
MageGrayWolf
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but autistic kids have special ed so that won't happen


Autism is a pretty wide spectrum, not all autistics require special ed classes.
Asherlee
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Mage is correct, look at the high-functioning autistic folks. For example, I believe Asperger's sufferers are high-functioning. Generally, they get distracted by patterns and numbers. Also, their social skills are not up to par, but they don't need special education.

MageGrayWolf
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Mage is correct, look at the high-functioning autistic folks. For example, I believe Asperger's sufferers are high-functioning.


The main difference with Aperger's is that language skills develop normally unlike other forms of autism. They may also seek out social interactions, however be ill equipped to handle them.
As for it being high-functioning autism, this is in dispute. The term is an unofficial term. Some claim they are separate from Asperger's and others say the two are indistinguishable.
Asherlee
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Ahh, I see. From what I understood is that Autism was a sort of umbrella term. Last I've read, which has been years, that a lot of syndromes and disorders tend to fall under that umbrella.

But again, I haven't been up to date on Autism since 2007.

Sorry, I took us off topic.

Point being, that not all people with syndromes or said disorders need special education. Even so, at the high school I attended, special education had a lot of interaction with the rest of the high school students. There isn't that much shelter from the teasing either way.

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Yep, Autism is an umbrella term for a wide variety of diseases.

Autism is one (probably the most famous) of the Pervasive developmental disorders, so often persons mistakenly consider Autism as a synonymous of PPD.

Kids are always a tad crude, but (for the greatest part) they don't do it to hurt the other. They just don't think of the consequences of their actions to the other persons.

When I was 8 years old I had a teacher who was gimpy. Once a student called him crippled.
He didn't do it because he was mean, he just did it.

AnaLoGMunKy
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I really, really hope that was sarcasm.

I'm pretty sure it was.


Yep there was deffo sarcasm in my comments.

I understand that fitting in can help someone avoid being bullied but so can adults intervening properly. Most of the kids who bullied me were having a crap time at home. Most bullies are bullied.

Also if everyone suddenly tries to fit in then who is left to bully? The bullies will always find a way to bully someone they can use as a target. Imagine slagging someone for wearing glasses or for not wearing the current trendy clothes! When I look back I realise how petty it was for some bullies to make fun of me because I didnt wear addidas trousers, they started calling me a tramp and saying I was poor and pretty much any derogitory &quotoor person" word you can think of (kids are very inventive, I know because my son keeps beating me at eye-spy)...

There is no escape. The solution is to find the root, always is in most cases.
goumas13
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Most bullies are bullied.

True. Some bullies come form families where everyone is angry and yelling all the time, hence perhaps they think that yelling, insulting and shoving people is a normal way to act. Or they just have been bullied when they were younger, later they felt ashamed of that and thus they bully people to get "even".
The solution is to find the root, always is in most cases.

Seconded.
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Some bullies come form families where everyone is angry and yelling all the time, hence perhaps they think that yelling, insulting and shoving people is a normal way to act. Or they just have been bullied when they were younger, later they felt ashamed of that and thus they bully people to get "even".


I can say I have seen this in numerous cases. Some of my semi-distant family are rather angry and violence was a regular thing. I have not really seen them properly for years but I doubt things have changed for them. So some of them are also angry and some of the stuff they do... wow! Its all about what surrounds you.

My sons mum shouted at him alot because she found it difficult to handle him and it ended up where he would run around crazy shouting and get into big arguments with her and also act crazy around other kids which was leading to him becoming excluded. He lives with me now and everyone, including teachers at school and the people at the after school club, say he has calmed down in the last couple of years.

I have now begun to confront this behaviour that happens between my son and him mum and although she was not happy at first, she is recognising her pattern of behaviour. Its not bullying but its not far removed. A pattern of learned behaviour.

So I dont think the problem is solved by sinking into the void of "normality"... but its certainly not one a child alone can ever hope to stand up against (standing up for yourself usually goes out the window when 10 people surround you)
AnaLoGMunKy
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Sorry for the double post. When I say excluded, I mean from activities because kids didnt want him to join in, not being excluded from school.

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I've found that the bad behavior doesn't always become mimicked (in a lot of cases i does) sometimes the kid will try being totally different from the parent. That usually leads to more arguments. I now this from experience as my not going to mention relative is religious and while I was turning Atheistic and wanting to leave the catholic education system it led to the occasionally awkward/argumentative situation. I'm at peace with the relative, but I never make a conversation about religion.

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