wow can you believe this one event starts a huge reaction amoung alot. News, Ellen, Opra, and many others my only problem is why didnt they see this sooner with bullying well give your opinions.
I agree with you, if the kid-victim shoves the bully a bit or is a little violent its not a big deal. Plus, the other kid probably deserved it.
Let's not forget that younger kids kick the crap out of each other every day, so if an eight year old kicks an other eight year old its not a drama. Kids that punch each other at such ages are perfectly normal.
The problem is that when they are older, they can do pretty ugly things. I have seen terrible things, which were done for "ayback". There are several students who have assaulted their "thug" extremely violently or "thugs" who have crippled kids, the bully will probably fight back.
In my opinion, its just better suffering to some extent than doing something that you might regret later.
I could be wrong (and I probably am), but its just how I see it now. I never have been bullied - I wasn't a bully either though- so perhaps I just don't know. Therefore, my opinions could be easily based on arbitrary assumptions and generalizations.
Many states ask to make sure that you had no venues of escape before you used force. i.e. backed into a corner, encircled, etc.
True, or that you had reason to believe that you could not escape if you made an attempt, such as in the case of someone you already knew, or had good reason to believe, was much faster than you. (i.e. small guy get's attacked by the star running back)
Seriously man, quit spamming the forums. This is the third time I've mentioned to you that you cannot just go around posting one or two word replies, especially when they add nothing to the topic or don't make any sense. If need be I'll just link to every one of your spam comments and have them deleted and you'll lose the AP for your posts.
True, or that you had reason to believe that you could not escape if you made an attempt, such as in the case of someone you already knew, or had good reason to believe, was much faster than you. (i.e. small guy get's attacked by the star running back)
only fighting back when your surrounded doesn't make sense to me...your surrounded your F***ed anyways
Damn...I've read through this thread, and some of you have had it really tough. I'm sorry.
@Mage: How was he handicapped? What happened?
All I can say is...your guys' teachers must have sucked, and you must have had some really hardcore tormentors. *sigh* I've always been able to find a median between "nerd" and "cool". That median being, I do well on my schoolwork but don't act like a nerd, if you know what I mean. Like, I listen to metal, I watch South Park, etc. This tactic has worked for me thus far, and I'm also just very lucky. The principal at our school told us during her bullying seminar this year(she addresses pretty much every group separately by grade, by gender, etc every year) that we're a good group and she's heard good things about us from the other teachers and principals. I'm not sure if this is a crock of crap, but reading through this thread it actually might be true. I was a loner, the social loser, the total nerd and teacher's pet all the way up to third grade, and I can only recall one instance of being bullied in my entire school career. In kindergarten, his kid in my grade was doing...it was one of those spider things on the playground, the kind of dome with the bars that you can like climb on top of and whatnot. So anyway, he was doing like a little flip off the spider(as I will refer to it henceforth) and he dared me to do the same. I said no(I was, and still am, scared of heights) so he said something moderately mean like..."Scared your glasses are gonna break, chicken?" and I said something like...hell, I don't even remember, and strutted away. Nothing else beyond that point, except for harmless ribbing between buds(and we've all done that before). So I guess I really am lucky. I've been taking aikido for almost a year now, and I must say that if you are looking for a way to protect yourself from bullies, aikido is the way to go. Unlike other martial arts, aikido actually is based purely in self-defense, and if I were to fight someone I wouldn't actually hurt them with aikido, which is a good thing. Instead of throwing punches, kicks, etc. aikido uses the attacker's own momentum against them, which is a good strategy when you're a scrawny little nerd(I am, and proud of it) going up against a fullback. It also teaches how to escape from, say, a bear hug, how to deal if your opponent has a weapon(I am especially good at this), etc. So, yeah. Here are some common misconceptions about bullying I'd like to clear up on my position... Bullying is NOT a natural part of childhood. It is common, yes, but that does NOT make it acceptable. Bullying is a deliberate and mean-spirited act and that is NEVER acceptable. If you attack your bully, it is justifiable, however you will still be punished. It may be your only route if no one else will help you. However, I would suggest perhaps an alternative to this would be to make friends, not with the bully, but with someone else. Friends that have influence lol. I am very blessed to attend a school where the principal is like the Hound of Hell to bullies.
But you don't need to be? Most of us thread posters haven't been bullied for years. Oh, and if anyone wants advice on dealing with bullies, post a story here or on my profile, and i'd be glad to help
Do you mean how did that kid end up in a wheel chair? I don't know we started a new school year and he was in one. I didn't particularly care either, it put him on the other side of the fence.
All I can say is...your guys' teachers must have sucked, and you must have had some really hardcore tormentors. *sigh*
For the most part yes on both accounts. Most of my education is actually from either my dad or self taught.
I've always been able to find a median between "nerd" and "cool".
Most of the nerds thought I was cool and the "cool" kids thought I was a nerd. You might think that would be a good thing but it just made it that much harder to fit in anywhere.
The principal at our school told us during her bullying seminar this year(she addresses pretty much every group separately by grade, by gender, etc every year) that we're a good group and she's heard good things about us from the other teachers and principals.
The principal at my high school said "don't fight back if your being bullied just let them beat you up".
Unlike other martial arts, aikido actually is based purely in self-defense, and if I were to fight someone I wouldn't actually hurt them with aikido, which is a good thing. Instead of throwing punches, kicks, etc. aikido uses the attacker's own momentum against them, which is a good strategy when you're a scrawny little nerd(I am, and proud of it) going up against a fullback. It also teaches how to escape from, say, a bear hug, how to deal if your opponent has a weapon(I am especially good at this), etc. So, yeah.
Basically just grappling and throwing moves. Any good martial arts course will teach you these things. It's unfortunate many places treat it as a sport. Originally It was a method of dirty fighting.
