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NoNameC68
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Please answer these questions before you type your opinion.

1. Are you under the age of 21?
2. Did you know cigarettes play a part in causing cancer? If you're over 21, did you know they caused cancer before your 21st birthday?
3. Optional Do you smoke? If so, did you know cigarettes caused cancer before you started smoking?

Please answer the above questions at the beginning of your post before you read on.

Did you answer the above questions? Good. Chances are, everyone already knows cigarettes cause cancer. I'm also certain that everyone who smokes also knew cigarettes caused cancer before they smoked their first cigarette.

The FDA, who's intelligence often falls below that of the military, decided that teenagers who smoke are merely misinformed of the dangers behind smoking. To help make teenagers more aware of the negative effects caused by smoking, the FDA has resorted to one of the most disgusting and horrible actions imaginable. They are going to put graphic images on cigarette cartons, reminding people that they will ****ing die if they smoke, become important, kill babies, and more.

1. Almost everybody who smokes already knows the dangers of smoking. They knew before touching their first cigarette.
2. Many of those pictures are very graphic, and if any other company posted such gruesome pictures on their own products for one reason or another, I'm sure they would have been taken to court, or at least have their products removed from the shelves!

I do not smoke. I don't care to be around smokers. However, I believe the FDA is going too far. Not only do they insult everyone's intelligence, but they fail to allow people to make their own decisions without having to put up with their sickening scare tactics.

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NoNameC68
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Should they be allowed to smoke in resturants as well?


It should be up to restaurant owners. If you can have a hookah bar, I don't see why you can't have a restaurant where people can have a smoke inside.

If you don't want to breath other people's smoke, then find a restaurant where smoking is not allowed. If every restaurant allows some form of smoking somewhere in the room, then that's the world you live in and you should probably start eating at home more often.
MageGrayWolf
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There's the truth, and then there's stretching the truth to inhumane levels.


Yep, pretty sure they pulled some of those off the internet. The image of the little girl crying looks like some random image found in a Google search. Maybe they should use my idea for their propaganda.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/MageGrayWolf/lolcatsmokes.jpg
Efan
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That's a line of family guy I think. Have you noticed a lack of disgusting images on alcohol cans and bottles? Alcohol can be just as bad in a lot of cases so why not both? More people die of alcoholism than smoking.

MageGrayWolf
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That's a line of family guy I think. Have you noticed a lack of disgusting images on alcohol cans and bottles? Alcohol can be just as bad in a lot of cases so why not both? More people die of alcoholism than smoking.


That or Simpsons. Good point, I wonder why the double standard.
NoNameC68
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...yes but... Cigarettes provide no benefits. at all. its a one-way road. The few benefits that do exist ( besides those countering withdrawal/addiction symptoms, like relieving stress) are FAR outweighed by the negatives.


But cigarettes are fun?

Why do cigarettes have to be beneficial for them to have control over their own packaging? I won't lie, I believe it's a good thing that cigarette packages must state that smoking may cause cancer. It's a drug, sure, whatever. But forcing the company to add pictures? That's just too far.

Warning: These images are graphic. These are images that, if posted on AG, would result in the deletion of your post.

If you can't get away with posting those images on AG, then why should the government be allowed to force these images onto products sold at stores?! If the most disgusting image you can find in any given store is one placed by the government, then there's definitely a problem.
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1. Yep.
2. Well Duh. Pretty much everyone knows that.
3. I'm not addicted. It's just a stress reliever at times...

FORCING those pictures on there = wrong.
Making sure the public knows = not wrong.

Don't they already have a Warning sign? What else do they need?
Every idiot knows it gives you cancer. Every one that is an addicted smoker probably doesn't give a flying flip.

No one should be able to put a picture on a product that shows what COULD happen.

Would you put a picture of an obese person on every fast food bag?

MoonFairy
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On a side note

OMFG POOR LIL REPTILES!
I shall shoot the next person I see that has gator or snake skin anything.
I'll shoot em with my imaginary gun. and save that video on my phone and show them while they are slowly dying of blood loss what happened to that poor animal just because they wanted a bag.
Mwahahahahaha.

logantheking
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The government in general is not very intelligent, it is common knowledge that smoking can and will cause cancer.

sonicheroes95
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Humans in general aren't very smart either....

1. yes
2. yes
3. no, I'd be more likely to become a dragon in real life then smoke. (harming dragons tends to lead to death if I'm around, unless i think the dragon in question deserved it [karmic backlash])

samy
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f I put a picture of a Lego piece stuck in a child's throat on a box of Legos, would that be wrong?


Yep, there's a huge difference here that you're completely ignoring. Every time you smoke a cigarette it affects your health adversely, every time. We could argue how much it harms you but that isn't the point here the point is that every time I play with legos I am not harmed, in fact there's a very good chance that I'll be unscathed.

Good point, I wonder why the double standard.


Most alcohol related deaths deal with drunk driving not the actually drinking itself. Videos and commercials of people dying while drunk are very prominent, but again, just because you drink doesn't mean you will get in a car argument or that your health will be harmed.

If you can't get away with posting those images on AG


AG is a PG-13 site we live in an uncensored world, I don't see how this relates.

Don't they already have a Warning sign?


A warning by the surgeon general is hardly a very strong reason to stop smoking or even think about stopping for that reason.
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OK notice all the other developed countries?? I think they must be doing something right, because for the most part all the others don't have as high a smoking rate or the same prevalence level. If i handed you a suicide pill, made you buy it for 6 bucks and X years later you die of A, Y and/or Z?? Yeah i see no problem putting warnings on cigarettes.
Also, a graphic picture gives the smoker/ potential smoker something to relate to... Lets them see actually what can ( or possibly will) happen if they continue smoking or start smoking.

samy
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get in a car argument


Car accident*

In some locations drinking probably does guarantee that you will get into a car argument, so that argument wouldn't be too good.

Also, a graphic picture gives the smoker/ potential smoker something to relate to... Lets them see actually what can ( or possibly will) happen if they continue smoking or start smoking.


I think the pictures should be directed at the outcomes that are more likely, i.e. lung cancer and yellowed teeth, than outcomes that are less likely and kind of pointless, i.e. impotence. Not only does this portray smoking in a more factual manner it takes away the mild propaganda aspect.
Freakenstein
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just because you drink doesn't mean you will get in a car argument


I disagree. This one time, my neighbor came home completely drunk. We had to force him in the house because he was yelling at his Mercedes.

Also, I'm completely alarmed that it's a typo; I just like to poke fun :3

Yeah i see no problem putting warnings on cigarettes.


Warnings are fine. Graphic pictures that everyone can see aren't.
samy
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Also, I'm completely alarmed that it's a typo; I just like to poke fun :3



You're alarmed that it's a typo, don't freak out and taze me bro =P

Graphic pictures that everyone can see aren't.


What if the cigarettes are kept in stores so that the picture wouldn't face outwards?
Freakenstein
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There's also the matter of bringing it into the home where everyone in the home can see it. Depending on how...graphic those images can be, well...

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