There was a famine that ran for three straight years. King David made his inquiries, and the LORD answered, "It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites."
So the king called the Gibeonites in and asked them what he could do to make them whole again. They didn't want any gold or silver from Saul's estate. Instead they said, "The man that consumed us, and that devised against us that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the coasts of Israel, let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the LORD in Gibeah of Saul."
So the king took the two sons of Rizpah and the five sons of Michal, which they bore unto Saul, and delivered them to the Gibeonites. They hanged them on the hill before the LORD and were put to death in the beginning of the barley harvest.
And after David took the bones of the hanged men and buried them with the bones of Saul and Jonathan, God was intreated for the land.
The Bible is saying that you are justified to kill Homosexuals, this must be saying to exclude the: Do Not Murder commandment
Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Although this is in the old testament, so I do not believe that killing homosexuals should still be justified.
So you're saying that something in the Bible is wrong. And that means that it can't be God's book because then it would be completely true, not only a bit true...
[quote]Although this is in the old testament, so I do not believe that killing homosexuals should still be justified.
So you're saying that something in the Bible is wrong. And that means that it can't be God's book because then it would be completely true, not only a bit true...[/quote]
No, I am saying that times have changed, and if this was to continue, I believe that Jesus would have said this again in the NT. That would have applied to the time that that passage was written.
No, I am saying that times have changed, and if this was to continue, I believe that Jesus would have said this again in the NT. That would have applied to the time that that passage was written.
Didn't Jubuz say that the old laws are still in effect?
Human sacrifice - as found in the Bible: There was a famine that ran for three straight years. King David made his inquiries, and the LORD answered, "It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites." So the king called the Gibeonites in and asked them what he could do to make them whole again. They didn't want any gold or silver from Saul's estate. Instead they said, "The man that consumed us, and that devised against us that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the coasts of Israel, let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the LORD in Gibeah of Saul." So the king took the two sons of Rizpah and the five sons of Michal, which they bore unto Saul, and delivered them to the Gibeonites. They hanged them on the hill before the LORD and were put to death in the beginning of the barley harvest. And after David took the bones of the hanged men and buried them with the bones of Saul and Jonathan, God was intreated for the land.
May I ask, where from this Bible was this found? I would like to read more about it, as it may have something else to it than "Human Sacrafice." It seems to be as if, the Gibeonites are doing this for either revenge, or justice on behalf of the LORD against the house of Saul for disobeying God.
So back at that time homosexuality was wrong and now it isn't anymore? Or do you mean now we mustn't kill them? Either way: This guy called God seems to be pretty consistently...
...Thus human sacrifice no? My personal favorite is when a guy sacrifices his daughter to win a war!
No, not human sacrafice. Is it human sacrafice when a man get's hanged for commiting murder? Is it human sacrafice when a man get's lethal injection for commiting murder? I don't think so. It is called Justice.
No, not human sacrafice. Is it human sacrafice when a man get's hanged for commiting murder? Is it human sacrafice when a man get's lethal injection for commiting murder? I don't think so. It is called Justice.
Not unless you say "In the name of Yahweh, you die!" before you kill them. If you do, then it is human sacrifice... and here is a better one...
Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah.... And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering. So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the LORD delivered them into his hands. And he smote them ... with a very great slaughter. ... And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances.... And ... when he saw her... said, Alas, my daughter! ... I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back. And she said unto him ... Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows. ... And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed. -- Judges 11:29-39
I believe we mustn't kill them, I would much rather convert them than kill anyone. Other Christians will say that we must kill them, it is down to what you believe, and I will find out what is right when I go to Heaven.
I believe we mustn't kill them, I would much rather convert them than kill anyone. Other Christians will say that we must kill them, it is down to what you believe, and I will find out what is right when I go to Heaven.
Wait...Let me get this **** straight. You seriously think that we should either convert or be killed? Or are you referring to only homosexuals? Either way your ****ed up...
Human sacrifice: Genesis 22:2 Take your son, your only son â" yes, Isaac, whom you love so much â" and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you."
Exodus 13:2 "Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me."
Genesis 22:2 Then God said, âTake your son, your only son, whom you loveâ"Isaacâ"and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.â
Read further onto the story and you will see that this was a test of faith and that God provides a offering for Abraham instead of his son.
them went on together.
9 When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. 11 But the angel of the LORD called out to him from heaven, âAbraham! Abraham!â
âHere I am,â he replied.
12 âDo not lay a hand on the boy,â he said. âDo not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.â
13 Abraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram[a] caught by its horns.
Wait...Let me get this **** straight. You seriously think that we should either convert or be killed? Or are you referring to only homosexuals? Either way your ****ed up...
No I am not implying anything of the sort! I am saying that I would much rather convert someone than kill someone! I don't see where you are getting these thoughts from.
No I am not implying anything of the sort! I am saying that I would much rather convert someone than kill someone! I don't see where you are getting these thoughts from.
Which seems to suggest that the only to options are to A. Convert or B. Torture forever or C. Kill....
And you still haven't addressed MY human sacrifice...
