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cddm95ace
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How do we tell what is sinful and what is not? Who decides? My basis is the Bible.

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Blkasp
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Other Christians will say that we must kill them, it is down to what you believe,
But "God" said to kill them, didn't he?? Or wasn't this book written by God but by humans who had no f***ing idea? Hmm.. who knows... (I do)


Yes it is down to what the person believes if they shall kill someone or withhold. God did say to kill them, I agree with that, although I would not kill somebody, unless I myself was being attacked.

Your right, humans wrote this book, although they did have a clue on what it was about, infact around 40 people wrote the Bible.
Here are a few:
Moses is credited for the first five books of the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy
The Psalms were written by King David, Moses, Solomon, the sons of Korah, the sons of Asaph and Ethan the Ezrahite. There are also some Psalms that were written anonymously.
Isaiah, Hosea, Amos, Jonah, Micah, Nahum and Zephaniah were the prophets who penned the books with their names.
Peter of the Twelve Disciples wrote 1st and 2nd Peter. John, the Disciple that Jesus loved, wrote 1st, 2nd, and 3rd John and also Revelation.
Blkasp
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Which seems to suggest that the only to options are to A. Convert or B. Torture forever or C. Kill....


No, this is not Islam. We do not kill those who do not believe in the Bible.
Option C is elimated.
Sadly, option B still remains and nothing I can do will save them from that unless they come to know Jesus.

Your human sacrafice verse has a totaly different meaning to be without your paraphrasing.
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Your right, humans wrote this book, although they did have a clue on what it was about, infact around 40 people wrote the Bible.
Here are a few:
Moses is credited for the first five books of the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy
The Psalms were written by King David, Moses, Solomon, the sons of Korah, the sons of Asaph and Ethan the Ezrahite. There are also some Psalms that were written anonymously.
Isaiah, Hosea, Amos, Jonah, Micah, Nahum and Zephaniah were the prophets who penned the books with their names.
Peter of the Twelve Disciples wrote 1st and 2nd Peter. John, the Disciple that Jesus loved, wrote 1st, 2nd, and 3rd John and also Revelation.


Only by Chritsians... Real scholars and even my old AWANA group credit them to dozens of different people, and the new t estimate to some guy many years after Jubuz died, can't think of him, but he sent letters to converted villages which essentially said "Stay with our religion, and don't forget to pay!"....
314d1
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No, this is not Islam. We do not kill those who do not believe in the Bible.


The Bible says to. Why don't you?

Your human sacrafice verse has a totaly different meaning to be without your paraphrasing.


....All right, I am listening, what does it say?
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Read further onto the story and you will see that this was a test of faith and that God provides a offering for Abraham instead of his son.


But Abraham wanted to kill his son just because "God" told him so. What would you say if someone claims nowadays that he killed his son because God had told him so? Would believe it?
Blkasp
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[quote]Your human sacrafice verse has a totaly different meaning to be without your paraphrasing.
....All right, I am listening, what does it say?[/quote]

I does seem like a human sacrafice doesn't it. I guess my hands typed faster than my brain.

Anyway, it does not matter anymore, Jesus came and died on the cross so that we do not have to do this anymore and that we may have a relationship with God.

But Abraham wanted to kill his son just because "God" told him so. What would you say if someone claims nowadays that he killed his son because God had told him so? Would believe it?


Do you really think that Abraham wanted to kill his son? No, he had to do it because he had fear of God.

If somebody killed their son today in the name of God, that's the thing, I wouldn't know. If God talked to you tonight, and you told your friends about it, would they believe you?
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Anyway, it does not matter anymore, Jesus came and died on the cross so that we do not have to do this anymore and that we may have a relationship with God.


...Isn't that just another human sacrifice, once you think about it? And once again, Jubuz did say

5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

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grimml
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Do you really think that Abraham wanted to kill his son?

He probably would have done it...

No, he had to do it because he had fear of God.

Okay, that makes it better... If I kill somebody just because a voice tells me so...

If God talked to you tonight, and you told your friends about it, would they believe you?

1. He won't talk to me cause I'm atheist and so he hates me
2. I hope my friends would NOT believe me.
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Human sacrafice is not related to Christians, unless you can support this claim with a Bible verse that PROVES that their has been a HUMAN sacrafice, it is a false claim.


Happened to watch this recently.
Jephthah [An Atheist Reads the Bible - Ep. 3]
The description includes citations.

Also Jesus was a rather nice example of a human sacrifice. As you said yourself.
Jesus came, and gave himself up, so that he may be the ultimate sacrafice,


I also noticed you didn't say anything about hurting animals as bad. What animals don't count as anything?

thus forgiving all our sins and this let's us have a open and intimate relationship with God once more.


Then why are we're suppose to keep apologizing for being human?
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