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crazynaitor
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Does anybody know any intresting facts about it other than Adolf Hitler started it?If you have post them here or else we can just talk about it here.

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StarScreamer
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Well i know afew things abut ww2. one is that hitler used drugs. another is that a lot of the time in airplane battles people would turn on their comrades and then go and be a japaniese or german pilot, and one other is that some of the female medics were prostitutes.
kinda weird but true.

LiL_GaNgSta_BlAzE
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The first German serviceman killed in the war was killed by the Japanese (China, 1937)
The first American serviceman killed was killed by the Russians (Finland, 1940).
80% of Soviet males born in 1923 didn't survive World War 2
The highest ranking American killed was Lt. Gen. Lesley McNair, killed by friendly fire from the US Army Air
Corps.
Between 1939 and 1945 the Allies dropped 3.4 million tons of bombs, An average of about
27,700 tons of bombs each month.
12,000 heavy bombers were shot down in World War 2
2/3 of Allied bomber crews were lost for each plane destroyed
3 or 4 ground men were wounded for each killed
6 bomber crewmen were killed for each one wounded
Over 100,000 Allied bomber crewmen were killed over Europe
There were 433 Medals of Honor awarded during World War 2, 219 of them were given
after the receipiant's death
From 6 June 1944 to 8 May 1945 in Europe the Allies had 200,000 dead and 550,000
wounded
The youngest US serviceman was 12 year old Calvin Graham, USN. He was wounded in
combat and given a Dishonorable Discharge for lying about his age. (His benefits were later
restored by act of Congress).
At the time of Pearl Harbor, the top US Navy command was called CINCUS (pronounced
sink us), the shoulder patch of the US Armys 45th Infantry division was the swastika, and
Hitlers private train was named Amerika. All three were soon changed for PR purposes.
Germany lost 110 Division Commanders in combat
40,000 men served on U-Boats during World War 2; 30,000 never returned
More US servicemen died in the Air Corps that the Marine Corps. While completing the
required 30 missions, your chance of being killed was 71%. Not that bombers were helpless.
A B-17 carried 4 tons of bombs and 1.5 tons of machine gun ammo. The US 8th Air Force
shot down 6,098 fighter planes, 1 for every 12,700 shots fired.
Germanys power grid was much more vulnerable than realized. One estimate is that if just
1% of the bombs dropped on German industry had instead been dropped on power plants,
German industry would have collapsed.
Generally speaking, there was no such thing as an average fighter pilot. You were either an
ace or a target. For instance, Japanese ace Hiroyoshi Nishizawa shot down over 80 planes.
He died while the cargo plane he was in was shot down by F6F Hellcats. He was on his way to pick up a new A6M3 Zero fighter plane.

One of Japans methods of destroying tanks was to bury a very large artillery shell with only
the nose exposed. When a tank came near the enough a soldier would whack the shell with a
hammer. "Lack of weapons is no excuse for defeat." Lt. Gen. Mataguchi
Following a massive naval bombardment, 35,000 US and Canadian troops stormed ashore at
Kiska. 21 troops were killed in the fire-fight. It would have been worse if there had been
Japanese on the island.
The MISS ME was an unarmed Piper Cub. While spotting for US artillery her pilot saw a
similar German plane doing the same thing. He dove on the German plane and he and his
co-pilot fired their pistols damaging the German plane enough that it had to make a forced
landing. Whereupon they landed and took the Germans prisoner. It is unknown where they
put them since the MISS ME only had two seats.
Most members of the Waffen SS were not German.
Most men in the German Army hated the Nazi Party.
Air attacks caused 1/3 of German Generals' deaths
By D-Day, the Germans had 1.5 million railway workers operating 988,000 freight cars and
used 29,000 per day

The only nation that Germany officially declared war on was the USA.
During the Japanese attack on Hong Kong, British officers objected to Canadian infantrymen
taking up positions in the officers mess. No enlisted men allowed!
By D-Day, 35% of all German soldiers had been wounded at least once, 11% twice, 6%
three times, 2% four times and 2% more than 4 times

Nuclear physicist Niels Bohr was rescued in the nick of time from German occupied
Denmark. While Danish resistance fighters provided covering fire he ran out the back door of
his home stopping momentarily to grab a beer bottle full of precious water. He finally
reached England still clutching the bottle, which contained beer. Perhaps some German drank
the water.


Some of thease are vary interesting!
Ninjacube
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I don't like that Hitler killed Jews but other than that he was an economice genius

RsC
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well i see no one knows how he became 'the fuhrer', there was some kind of 'residentship' going on and for some reason alot of female people voted on Adolf Hitler, why?
back than he had no wife or he wasn't in love with someone the only goal was too accomplish his goal (making germany better), thanks too those speeches alot of womans were suprised of him and voted on him, so when he became 'the fuhrer' he said too be the only ruler of the land, so after that he held speeches about the jewish people that made them suffer and started war, his first conquered land was 'the netherlands(Rotterdam)' and after that the rest came. for more information check www.wikipedia.com

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Lots of women voted for Hitler because of his desire for German women to become housewives and mother figures. Before WW1 women never worked but had to due to the lack of male labour. Many middle and upper class German women didn't like this as they had very conservative views on it at the time. When Hitler came to power he introduced the League of German Maidens for girls to learn how to become mothers. He also encouraged women to have more babies. A woman received a bronze star for having 4 babies a silver star for having six and a gold star for having 8 babies. This system gave women and their families more privelages than most which was an incentive. Not only this but women were discouraged from having jobs and many women were fired when the Nazis started discouraging females from working. However when war broke out again in 1939 Hitler needed more women workers to replace the men fighting and so did a uturn on his policy on women. However by this time most German citizens were either indoctrinised by the Nazis or too scared of them to say anything about it.

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Following a massive naval bombardment, 35,000 U.S. and Canadian troops stormed ashore at Kiska, in the Aleutian Islands. Twenty-one troops were killed in the firefight. It would have been worse if there had been any Japanese soldiers on the island.


this one made me laugh, same with the toilet one.
LiL_GaNgSta_BlAzE
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Haha yeah, and the one about the 12 year old privet LOL! OMG they really belived that he was a "small person" LOL

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One of Hitlers plans to get rid of the Jews was to put every Jew in Europe on a boat and dump them in Madagascar.

Another thing about Hitler.

When the British who ruled Palestine the Jews who lived there were rebelling. Hitler funded the British government so they would kill the Jews, but he also funded the Jews so they would kill the British. Pretty weird if u ask me

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I have been studying Russian history for a long time. Once I wrap up my Master's degree, I'm going to work towards a PhD in Russian history. If you want to know about the European Theater in WWII, it's all about Russia and Germany. 80% of all casualties were on the Eastern Front.

The Russians were the ones who beat Germany. The US, UK, Canadians, and other Western Front powers only hastened to collapse of Germany by a couple months. Russia did everything. The battles were also immense. In some battles both sides would just throw millions of troops at each other. The Soviets lost 13 million soldiers and 14 million civilians in what the Russians still call The Great Patriotic War. Their survival was at stake and had they lost at Stalingrad, Leningrad or Moscow, they probably would have fallen.

If you want to read some great books on the subject check out anything by Antony Beevor including "Berlin" or "Stalingrad." Also read "Ivan's War" by Catherine Merridale. "Ivan's War" is the best book I have ever read. It goes in depth about the lives of the Russian soldiers during the war. It has a perfect blend of history and personal stories to tell how the Soviets were able to take down the Third Reich.

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very interesting!

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I saw on National Geographic that Hilter tested on children so he could creat the "Perfect Human." In one of these test he tried to change the color of eyes by injecting, I forgot what it was, into the eye. Of course he failed because you can't change genes as far as I know.

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That WWII is the best money making game in the wargame business(think about it:COD and medal of honor games take place during WWII)(or at least some of them)

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To thelistman on Russian history in WWII, have you ever read 800 Days on the Eastern Front by Litvin, it's quite good and even documents his time in a penal battalion. One thing I loved was when some Russian soldiers found a large supply of vodka left behind by German troops they got drunk and then the Germans ambushed them. During the ambush a drunken Russian soldier emerged on horseback with a bottle of vodka in one hand and a PPSh in the other, he survived the encounter.

I studied WWII in a Topics in Military History class, mostly causes that lead up to the war focusing on Japan, Germany and to a much lesser degree the Soviet Union. Stalin's purges of the Red Army hindered him but thankfully Zukov was left alive, managed to defeat Japanese invaders (who due to this decided not to invade the Soviet Union again allowing Zukov to be redeployed with his army to the east allowing the Soviet Union to fight a one front war instead of a two front. This greatly helped).

The parts on Imperial Japan were quite interesting. Ever since the Meiji resteration the Japanese had wanted to expand. They joined the allies in World War I and took German colonies but still wanted much more. They were raised, well, brainwashed, to believe in their ethnic superourity over Koreans, Chinese and basically all other people and saw their Emperor as a literal Sun God. The Samuri class took over all Japanese buisiness (many are still in their hands) and turned the regular Japanese citizen basically into their workers.

It can be said WWII began in the 1930s due to Japanese invasions of their neighbors for the purposes of expansion. During this time period the Japanese Army and Navy were two very different organizations. The Navy was well traveled and had seen much of the world while the Army remained at home feeding on Imperial propoganda. In the early '30s (I don't know the exact time) an Army group of Officers called the Imperial Way got together to overthrow the peaceful civilian government officials (by peaceful I mean they wanted to further build their military before expanding through conquest). They took Tokyo, execuited a couple officials and held the rest prisoner. The Navy steamed into Tokyo and turned their guns at the Army, forcing them to surrender. They sent the officers to the one place they believed they couldn't get in trouble, Manchuria. Long story short they got in trouble, they invaded China and waited several weeks to inform Tokyo. The Navy and rest of Japan was forced into war due to this.

The Japanese homefront before the war was reflective of a nation ruled by dictators. Secret police, literal translation of their name is thought police, arrested people for speaking out against the government and even for not reporting anti-government speech. Children were introduced to the military lifestyle in school and had to enter the military after leaving school, this was not a pleasant experience. Abuse was common. The Japanese government understood the inferiority of their weapons and told their people that their superiour spirit would save them and make up for this. This was incorrect, though human wave tactics sure made up for it. However, to die for the Emperor was the best thing one could hope for in many young soldier's minds so it was no problem. This idea also seeped into the Navy and fire control on Japanese ships was pathetic, they did not believe the enemy would ever penetrate far enough to hit their ships in the first place so why bother teaching sailers to fight fires. They were wrong.

Back in China the Japanese Army managed to do one thing no one else could, unite the Chinese Nationalists and Communists. The Japanese soldier saw the Chinese as subhuman and in Japanese held territory Chinese, Koreans and other peoples were treated as easily replaced slaves. The men were worked to death in mines with little to no safety procautions, the women were used as prostitutes. One famous event is known as the "**** of Nanking" and comes from when the Japanese Army besieged the then capital of China, Nanking, for one (maybe two, I'm not quite sure) months. When they finally broke into the city they commited enough war crimes to make the German ambassador, a Nazi party member, feel sorry enough for the local civilians to organize with the permission of his superiours an international zone alongside the British, American and French embassies using their embassy guards to enforce the zone. This saved many of the locals, but thousands were ***** and murdered by the Japanese army in numerous ways I won't mention here. The only reason they didn't attack the international zone started by a NAZI was they did not want war with the west, yet.

Fighting the Japanese soldier was an experience no one in their right mind would want. They used human wave tactics, shot medics, left their own to die (often giving them a grenade to speed up the process) and never learend. Islands guarded by over 10,000 men would only yield at best 2-300 prisoners with the rest dead. Bodies couldn't be cleared due booby traps and the islands were hot, humid tropic &quotaradises." The Japanese soldier rarley if ever surrendered, the only way to survive and encounter was to kill him before he killed you.

As the war drew on and reached islands closer to the Japanese homeland the US soldier and his allies saw more than the horrors of war, they saw the horrors of Imperial Japan. On one island whose name I forget there was a civilian population. Not wanting them to fall into Allied hands the Japanese soldiers killed as many as they could. There is a famous and true story of a U.S. infantryman watching in horror as his unit fought to try and stop the even as a Japanese soldier threw a pregnant woman off a cliff. As she fell she gave birth, mother and child then hit the rocks below. They were far from alone and bones can still be found near that cliff to this day. Other times the Japanese soldier used the civilians as human shields, having them go to the allied soldiers and then attacking from behind, often shooting through them. This I know occured on Okinawa and possibly some other islands, I am a little bit rusty on some of this.

At Okinawa the Japanese Army began to learn the lessons of war and focused on the defense, using lessons they had ignored up to that point. To say it was difficult to take the island is a gross understatment, no video game or movie could ever do it justice and Okinawa is what convinced U.S. command to use nuclear weapons against Japan to try and prevent a land invasion of Japan.

As the war neared its conclusion the Japanese people prepaired to fend off the invaders. Every firearm in the country was handed out and many people were even given bows when the rifles ran out. Children were given sharpened bamboo sticks to fight the invaders and preparations were met. U.S. estimates for a ground invasion included around 1 million U.S. dead, Purple Hearts made for the planned invasion are still handed out today. Thankfully, the invasion never came, instead the nuclear bomb was dropped and convinced the Japanese to surrender. Please not this was not a unanimous decision and it did take TWO atomic bombs. The Japanese Army wished to continue fighting but the Emperor, a far from innocent man (he was a fan of biological warfare I believe) decided to surrender. In order to maintain order in occupied Japan the U.S. let the Emperor continue being the Emperor, though stripped him of much power. If that invasion of Japan had come to pass, not only would there no longer be an Emperor there would quite likely be much fewer Japanese people. It would have been a truley terrible war even by WWII standards and the death toll would have been horrific. One can wonder if Japan itself had been invaded if Japan would even still be there today. Millions would have died, a culture would have been truley destroyied and the nation would still be in ruins today.

Alright, that's enough for now, sorry for all the text. There is a lot more, The Pacific War is a good book to describe life in Imperial Japan so if anyone is interested look it up on Amazon I guess. Go to Wikipedia for Nanking as I don't feel like listing all of what happened there.

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So many of these are pseudo facts (and I can attest to this as a history major who has taken MANY classes on this war).

I just want to say though that it is VERY unlikely that Hitler has current offspring running around as he most likely never had sex and was extremely afraid of coming into contact with things (like vaginas etc). (Dr. Cousineau, 2009).

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lmfao about offspring. Yea, if he had an offspring that would be pretty weird.

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