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Maverick4
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On Wednesday, January 19th, the house voted 245-189 (all Republicans, and 3 Democrats) to repeal the Healthcare Law. I was curious as to what AG's response would be to this.

Some sources:

The Hill

The Huffington Post

FOX News

CNN

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Einfach
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It used to happen. Only the sons and daughters of kings or wealthy people. Abigail Adams was one of the few women of her time to receive a proper education since it was so expensive.


Since it was so expensive, then how are we even capable of manipulating the resources in order to pay for more people to have access to education? It's not like it was created or something!

Because it is inhuman to have to pay for someone to receive an education and function in society.


Why?
NoNameC68
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Because it is inhuman to have to pay for someone to receive an education and function in society.


Is it now? How inconsistent.

You keep forgetting that government programs are only a mere illusion of "free". You're still paying through taxes. Oh, how inhuman is must be to make people pay their own way in life rather than forcing those who have worked for a living to pay for those poorer than themselves.
Einfach
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You keep forgetting that government programs are only a mere illusion of "free". You're still paying through taxes. Oh, how inhuman is must be to make people pay their own way in life rather than forcing those who have worked for a living to pay for those poorer than them.


I feel like we're saying the same things, but in slightly different ways.
NoNameC68
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I feel like we're saying the same things, but in slightly different ways.


Yeah, I probably didn't need to chime in since you already made the same point.

I'm curious as to the whole concept behind being "fair".

It's unfair that people are born in situations where they are poor. Therefore it is assumed that the only fair thing to do is to pay for their education and health.

However, by paying for their education and health, you are being unfair to those who do have money.

So, the solution to being fair to the poor is to be unfair to the middle and upper classes?
skarl
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funny thing: if I post a post about the dutch health care system noname doesn't react.

did you miss it, or did jou just not have an answer?

NoNameC68
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funny thing: if I post a post about the dutch health care system noname doesn't react.

did you miss it, or did jou just not have an answer?


How much are you paying in taxes?
Kevin4762
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You keep forgetting that government programs are only a mere illusion of "free". You're still paying through taxes. Oh, how inhuman is must be to make people pay their own way in life rather than forcing those who have worked for a living to pay for those poorer than themselves.


So basically, libertarians believe that everyone should be independent while socialists believe people should work together. I like working together to pay for the future members of society.
Einfach
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So basically, libertarians believe that everyone should be independent while socialists believe people should work together


A blatant straw man / oversimplification.

That's like saying "Have you ever seen a dog give birth to a cat? The idea of evolution is only believed by crazy liberals!"
Einfach
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libertarians believe that everyone should be independent while socialists believe people should work together.


And to further add to my point, it's actually the other way around, as all policies that restrict free trade prevent people from working together, as they prevent mutually beneficial trades.
Kevin4762
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A blatant straw man / oversimplification.


I know this isn't all they believe, but just one thing the believe in.

That's like saying "Have you ever seen a dog give birth to a cat? The idea of evolution is only believed by crazy liberals!"


I don't understand the connection.
Einfach
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I don't understand the connection.


You're saying something is what it isn't. You're attacking something that isn't there.

Thus, straw man.
tiger25691
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I bet the president will just kill it and then all the people who voted for it will be really PO

Kevin4762
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You're saying something is what it isn't. You're attacking something that isn't there.

Thus, straw man.


Ah, so basically I'm just trying to prove something completely off topic. Okay. Well, I was just summing up what NoName believed about healthcare.
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@E1337 you forgot the opening sarcasm tag.
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I'm not that into politics anymore. I used to be, until I realized that anything televised was really just rhetoric or shouting matches. If I do any politics research, I pull from other sources than the news media.

NoNameC68
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Ah, so basically I'm just trying to prove something completely off topic. Okay. Well, I was just summing up what NoName believed about healthcare.


So basically, libertarians believe that everyone should be independent while socialists believe people should work together. I like working together to pay for the future members of society.


People work together without the government constantly. It's unavoidable. However, without government telling us what to do, we have even more opportunities to help each other without having to be forced.

Remember, you can call it "working together" if you want, but the fact of the matter is that everyone is being forced to work together under gun point.
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