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SupaLegit
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Well, I was searching to see if this was already made, but the searches didn't show a thread with my idea so here it is. I am making this thread so we can have a typical tavern discussion thread for all things science! Basically, a thread for everything science! Ranging from discussions about laws and theories, scientific debate, breakthroughs, discussion about new scientific breakthroughs, certain scientists/philosophers, and all that good stuff!
So go out there and let out your inner science! ;P
To get us going somewhere I'll start: what do you think the future holds for technology? I think our knowledge will allow us to overcome the obstacles thrown at us in the future, I mean, we have discovered so much and have come so far!

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bunniecorps
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Eventually, maybe. But for now we have bigger problems (not political)

dair5
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In what way? Other more specialized systems would likely be more useful.


Well i was thinking useing a system like the last link. where we would take potentaly harmful substences such as oil, chemicals, ect... and we brake them down and bring them mainland for reuse or store them so they won't pollute our oceans.
MageGrayWolf
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Eventually, maybe. But for now we have bigger problems (not political)


What issues do you think we should work on?

Well i was thinking useing a system like the last link. where we would take potentaly harmful substences such as oil, chemicals, ect... and we brake them down and bring them mainland for reuse or store them so they won't pollute our oceans.


Some sort of water filtration system added to a sewage waste management system might be of use.
dair5
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Some sort of water filtration system added to a sewage waste management system might be of use.


Do you think it's possible to make a machine that will seperate compounds into pure elements?
ThorRatFox
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I doubt its possible right now i figure the earth is going to die before we are able to build a fast enough space craft and we haven't found a relable enough fuel

MageGrayWolf
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Possibly. Personally, I think that it is a bad idea. Even if you got it to work, what good would it do?


It would allow us to extract specific element to use as needed.

I would like to start a new topic. Star Trek. How to make a star trek ship.


We actually already covered warp drive. It would require some form of exotic matter and due to Hawkings radiation would be unable to travel faster than 99% the speed of light as the radiation would cause the warp bubble to break down.
The solution was to instead use the subliminal warp drive to reach near by stars in a matter of years then set up a Star Gate like device in space allowing for the formation of a wormhole (again requiring the same exotic matter) to travel nearly instantaneously to the new star system.
Though I would be fine with retreading on the subject.
Dragonblaze052
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I, too, feel that it would be a good idea to reenter this discussion. Perhaps we could find a way around Hawking Radiation or possibly a way to nullify it's effects.

MageGrayWolf
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Perhaps we could find a way around Hawking Radiation or possibly a way to nullify it's effects.


It would work if our exotic matter could also nullify the radiation, though we have to stretch the credibility of what the stuff can do as it is.
Dragonblaze052
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Perhaps we can create something that will replicate its frequency and amplitude and that would effectively protect us?

Is the nature of Hawking Radiation as a wave or particle?

MageGrayWolf
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Is the nature of Hawking Radiation as a wave or particle?


I'm not sure but the problem is we can't propagate any signal to or beyond the warp bubble. For a ship to start and stop a warp bubble itself the exotic matter would have to have the property to be able to first traverse higher dimensions (likely at least the 5th dimension) in order to side step the warp effect. As I said this is already pushing the credibility of what our speculative exotic matter can do.
So any signal we send to effect the radiation that would collapse the bubble would never reach it's destination.
Dragonblaze052
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I'm thinking more along the lines of internal vs. external pressure. In a deep sea dive, the human body is subjected to far more than enough force to crush it, but the air line is pumping enough counter pressure to protect the diver. If the hose is cut off, the diver is more or less immediately crushed. If we were to produce enough feux Hawking Radiation pushing the bubble from the inside, it might protect it from the real Hawking Radiation.

MageGrayWolf
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I'm thinking more along the lines of internal vs. external pressure. In a deep sea dive, the human body is subjected to far more than enough force to crush it, but the air line is pumping enough counter pressure to protect the diver. If the hose is cut off, the diver is more or less immediately crushed. If we were to produce enough feux Hawking Radiation pushing the bubble from the inside, it might protect it from the real Hawking Radiation.


Nothing in the bubble would be able to effect the bubble itself. The radiation starts at the bubble and propagates in. If we can't find exotic matter that could side step the warping of space we would need to start and stop the bubble from the outside.

It's a bit like tying a stick with a carrot hanging on it to a mules head. They will keep trying to reach it but are never able to.
Dragonblaze052
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What if we were to create a bubble within the bubble, then popped the outside bubble and did the same repeatedly?


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DarkGamer99
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What is that going to prove? Why create something like that and destroy it? It sounds like a pretty interesting idea.

MageGrayWolf
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What if we were to create a bubble within the bubble, then popped the outside bubble and did the same repeatedly?


I'm not sure the physics of it would allow that. But even if it did we still couldn't get it up to light speed, as soon as it hit that point it would collapse both bubbles.
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