I was just about to go to sleep so I was taking my nightly dump where I do a lot of reflecting.
I started a thread a couple days ago called about atheism and it started a debate. I myself am a die hard atheist but I was just wondering is religion even all that bad?
I mean maybe some people just need that cushion, maybe they cant accept their fates? I would like to hear from you why religion is so bad. Is it halting progression? Is it dumbing us down, what do you have to say?
K guys, since the mods take a while to lock this, and people keep posting, stop posting in this necroed thread, there are quite a few religion-based threads that are more recent.
K guys, since the mods take a while to lock this, and people keep posting, stop posting in this necroed thread, there are quite a few religion-based threads that are more recent.
No as long as there is active topic-related discussion.
I personaly am not a big fan of religon. It has caused me so much grief. Last year kids at school called me a "devil worshipper" they asked me if I sacrificed animals, thought about killing people, and told me things like I should just kill myself. When you are so strong headed about your religious beliefs it causes pain for everyone.
I myself support religion. If we did not have religion, we would not have a reason to live. It gives society hope.
Also angel, don't worry about those people. Support religion, and stay cool about it. One thing is to be humble. That actually can earn the respect of people.
If we did not have religion, we would not have a reason to live
Is your own life really so meaningless and pointless to you that you need religion to give it a point? Mine certainly isn't and you don't see me committing suicide.
I think that we would not have a reason to live not in the sense of suicide, but in the sense that we would have a god, a drive to please whoever is our god. It helps society reflect on themselves, and make changes for the better. We can ask only so many questions, we count on religion to answer the ones that reason can't
I think that we would not have a reason to live not in the sense of suicide, but in the sense that we would have a god, a drive to please whoever is our god.
I have no drive to try and please an imaginary being. I am fully capable of reflecting on myself and make changes for the better without this reason to live. Religion does not offer answers, just making something up isn't an answer. Which going on believing something without evidence is what your left with and belief without evidence (faith) is exactly what all religions are based on.
Besides this there are plenty who do very horrible things in an attempt to please their god. There have been things included in societies that have been harmful thanks to religious views.
Well, yes, I believe that all systems based on faith is bad, because I think that everything that isn't the thruth or trying to show the thruth is bad, including faith.
Well, yes, I believe that all systems based on faith is bad, because I think that everything that isn't the thruth or trying to show the thruth is bad, including faith.
Well faith isn't isn't always wrong. It just isn't proven. Though sometimes it can be.
I don't think religion is bad. Just like I don't think sadism is bad, or any mentality is bad. really. So long as you don't hurt people without their consent.
Well faith isn't isn't always wrong. It just isn't proven. Though sometimes it can be.
Once something can be proven faith no longer is required. Though I would still argue it's bad to believe something that has yet been given evidence for it, which is exactly what is being done with faith.
Once you find evidence for it, yes it is no longer faith. But you did prove the faith. Just like baking bater and making brownies.
No you didn't prove the faith you proved evidence for what the faith was being placed in. A foolish thing to do before getting evidence to support the claim. As for your analogy I don't follow.
No you didn't prove the faith you proved evidence for what the faith was being placed in.
What? I'm a little confused. If you can take a scientific approach to a faith and give evidence to support it as being true, then didn't you just prove the faith? Faith is a belife not based on proof. So if you take it, and can prove it, then it is no longer faith. Right?
What? I'm a little confused. If you can take a scientific approach to a faith and give evidence to support it as being true, then didn't you just prove the faith? Faith is a belife not based on proof. So if you take it, and can prove it, then it is no longer faith. Right?
Yes it is a belief not based on evidence. Once you have proven it the faith is not longer needed to believe. Let's say I believed there was a dinosaur in my bedroom, I have no evidence of this, so it would be a belief based on faith. Now if I were to gain evidence that there was indeed a dinosaur in my bedroom I haven't proven the faith I proved there was a dinosaur in my bedroom, the thing I was placing my faith in. What I did was I got rid of the faith and replaced it with supporting evidence.
