I have a question and it would be nice If somebody could answer it.
How is it possible that somebody believes in God although there doesn't exist any proof or at least an evidence for Gods existance besides some old books?
In my opinion God's an explanation for everything unknown.
I don't know if i believe in God or not, but i think the humanity need something to believe in, something that you can build up your society on. (the Ten Commandments are our society is pretty much build up on). I also think heaven is good for us humans, I've no idea if it exist or not, but it's always good to believe so, you've something you want to achieve. That's good reason why so many people are nice, just to they want into heaven. (and if they do anything bad they will fall down into hell and they have to work for the devil). Of course people take the paradise instead of the hell.
Nope again the environment could take care of that. This would require some random processes, but the argument was never that they didn't exist at all just that it wasn't the only thing involved.
So what, did the environment just decide to react one day? Er, I guess there weren't 'days' back then...
but i think the humanity need something to believe in,
How about something that is verifiable.
something that you can build up your society on. (the Ten Commandments are our society is pretty much build up on).
Actually no it's not. Coming up with concepts like don't kill or don't steal isn't that hard for a society. Since your profile says your from Sweden I take it you mean there, which I'm pretty sure is know of being secular.
I also think heaven is good for us humans, I've no idea if it exist or not, but it's always good to believe so, you've something you want to achieve.
You can come up with plenty of achievements that don't require dying to accomplish.
That's good reason why so many people are nice, just to they want into heaven.
So they aren't really nice they are just doing it because they think they will be rewarded. Also if it's real wouldn't an omnipotent God know they were just faking it making such an attempt invalid?
Honestly, believing is not about proof. If you have proof for something, than you don't believe in it, you know it (or perhaps, you believe that you have a proof). Believing is exactly for when you don't have any proof. And there are many reasons why people choose to believe in a God, though none attract me personally.
But i think the humanity need something to believe in,
How about something that is verifiable.
I don't know if it would work if you're able to control your faith? If you can control what people believe in, then you can also change it, and I think humanity would adjust it to make it to our advantage. but you can't change god, you can't change heaven or hell, (summary: if you're kind you'll go up to heaven and if you're bad you'll go down to hell).
something that you can build up your society on. (the Ten Commandments are our society is pretty much build up on).
Actually no it's not. Coming up with concepts like don't kill or don't steal isn't that hard for a society. Since your profile says your from Sweden I take it you mean there, which I'm pretty sure is know of being secular.
Okay maybe i was wrong about this a little, I don't know if the entire world society is build up on this. but here in Sweden it is! I've a really good text on "Why the ten commandants affect your society" but it's in Swedish so i wont translate it because it would be very long.
I also think heaven is good for us humans, I've no idea if it exist or not, but it's always good to believe so, you've something you want to achieve.
You can come up with plenty of achievements that don't require dying to accomplish.
True true, but if you think in the long run, and what happen to the life after this, isn't nice to have a Paradise to believe in? And everything is good up there, you'll have the perfect life and no evil at all. and how many people want to be tortured in the hell for all eternity?
That's good reason why so many people are nice, just to they want into heaven.
So they aren't really nice they are just doing it because they think they will be rewarded. Also if it's real wouldn't an omnipotent God know they were just faking it making such an attempt invalid?
That's the point! It doesn't matter if it exist or not, but if people believe so, they will do better things in their life to achieve this heaven. And I'd help that lady over the street just to life in paradise the rest of my life, so it wont harm to do nice things either.
I don't know if i believe in God or not, but i think the humanity need something to believe in, something that you can build up your society on. (the Ten Commandments are our society is pretty much build up on). I also think heaven is good for us humans, I've no idea if it exist or not, but it's always good to believe so, you've something you want to achieve. That's good reason why so many people are nice, just to they want into heaven. (and if they do anything bad they will fall down into hell and they have to work for the devil). Of course people take the paradise instead of the hell.
No what is good for people is knowing something as true and proven not as just a story. People should make their own morals based on their opinions not just some stupid goat herders. And some people are nice because it is better if people are nice and not because a magic sky fairy says so.
Honestly, believing is not about proof. If you have proof for something, than you don't believe in it, you know it (or perhaps, you believe that you have a proof). Believing is exactly for when you don't have any proof. And there are many reasons why people choose to believe in a God, though none attract me personally.
But anything you believe in should have at least evidence and not just stupidity. And therefore believing is either knowing or stupidity
Honestly, believing is not about proof. If you have proof for something, than you don't believe in it, you know it (or perhaps, you believe that you have a proof).
You can believe in something you know.
Believing is exactly for when you don't have any proof.
That's faith. Belief is a conviction of truth in something. If I have evidence I can hold a conviction that what I have evidence of is true, i.e. I believe it.
I don't know if it would work if you're able to control your faith? If you can control what people believe in, then you can also change it, and I think humanity would adjust it to make it to our advantage.
The people who held such control would likely adjust it to serve their own gain.
I've a really good text on "Why the ten commandants affect your society" but it's in Swedish so i wont translate it because it would be very long.
Understood, maybe you will be able to Google something, if not no biggy.
isn't nice to have a Paradise to believe in? And everything is good up there, you'll have the perfect life and no evil at all. and how many people want to be tortured in the hell for all eternity?
Sure it's nice to think about, at face value. Though the implications once you scratch the surface of such an existence would require a human going there to stop being who and what they are. Further more how could anyone be happy in a paradise with such requirements to get in knowing there were so many burning in hell? Thinking in the long run the system isn't that good at all. The whole system seems to require that we don't think in order for it to work.
That's the point! It doesn't matter if it exist or not, but if people believe so, they will do better things in their life to achieve this heaven.
And what happens when that religion says things like slavery is okay, or that certain people are inferior? Or another example of being asked to kill one's child because that god asked of it. In many cases you will see people not listening to what that religion says and listen to their own morals they have imposed on that religion, something they would have without the baggage of religion.
Thank you MageGrayWolf for you respond! :>
Your welcome.
exists. for sure. pay attention to your life.
I have, I've seen nothing to indicate that such a being exists. Furthermore such observations indicate specific claims of gods do not fit with what is being observed.
Sigh. For all who do not understand what trolling is, just take a look at this comment.
He may be honestly stating his opinion, so maybe not.
He may be honestly stating his opinion, so maybe not.
Maybe, maybe not, can't tell from the information given. However, you can infer that he's calling you blind if you don't believe in God, via this part, "ay attention to your life"
