ForumsWEPRDoes prayer even help?

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Paarfam
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People often complain about how their prayers always go unanswered, and I was just wondering what the AG community thought about this topic. I was also interested in where your opinions where on asking God for something.

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OperationNilo
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It is sad. You talk about the theme as if nothing. I hope you have a change.

And religion cannot be mixed with science.

But there is proof Jesus existed and he did miracles, as jewish historian Josephus said.

OperationNilo
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Every man except Jesus, Mary, and few others has sinned. You should be thankful.

"Modern medicine" cant stop car crashes, bombs, gunshots, or violence. The roof above you may fall unexpectedly, you may have a failure, etc... death comes in many ways, and you cant prevent it. This can be your last minute alive

314d1
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It is sad. You talk about the theme as if nothing. I hope you have a change.


Your right. This is worse than nothing. It is a horrible monster, a horrible horrible monster that has killed millions, poisoned millions more, and continues to poisons humanity and deserves to be spoken as such. I will remember to put more negative adjectives and adverbs in my sentence from now on.

And religion cannot be mixed with science.


Because science is the truth, it is what is real, it is what is there. Religion is what you want to be there, not what is. You can't mix truth, science, with religion, a lie.

But there is proof Jesus existed and he did miracles, as jewish historian Josephus said.


No there isn't. Or could you bring some objective proof up?
iMogwai
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"Modern medicine" cant stop car crashes,


No, airbags do.

bombs


There are bomb defusing robots, and people specialized in defusing bombs.

gunshots


Bullet-proof vests can stop them, and modern medicine can help you recover from being hit by one.

or violence


Protect you from, no, heal whatever wounds you get, yes.

The roof above you may fall unexpectedly, you may have a failure, etc... death comes in many ways, and you cant prevent it. This can be your last minute alive


Life's dangerous, you could die! Basically, the only way to not risk dying, is to already be dead. Belief or no belief, **** can happen when you least expect it.
Avorne
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Every man except Jesus, Mary, and few others has sinned. You should be thankful


So what happened to the whole "original sin" thing? Mary and Joseph must have sinned.
OperationNilo
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search for Josephus's work. Theres fresh proof there.

314d1
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Every man except Jesus, Mary, and few others has sinned. You should be thankful.


Wait, sinned? The majority of people have "sinned" by being "lustful", or enjoying sex and such, but that is just labeling human nature bad. Even then, we have asexual like Avorne who's only "crime" is being an atheist. My only "sin" is being a teenage male atheist. How is that bad? You would have to have a seriously warped mind to think so.

"Modern medicine" cant stop car crashes, bombs, gunshots, or violence.


Neither can your god. But at least modern medicine can help afterword, healing people who were injured in car crashes, bombs, healing gunshot wounds an all those other violence. And on top of that, medical science has not caused any violence, unlike religion.

The roof above you may fall unexpectedly, you may have a failure, etc


Lucky you have emergency teams using science in an attempt to help you.

. death comes in many ways, and you cant prevent it.


Really? Medical science is working on that. Might take a while, but we are on it...

This can be your last minute alive


But that is highly unlikely. Medical science has extended our lives to nearly a century, improved our life expectancy, and saved many lives. It is much better than your god, who if you where right, caused it.
OperationNilo
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Mary has Immaculate Conception. Hence, shes free from the original sin. As of Joseph, I dont know.

Avorne
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OperationNilo
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But 'modern medicine' doesnt do that, right?

It is unlikely, yes, but it is possible.

314d1
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Mary has Immaculate Conception. Hence, shes free from the original sin. As of Joseph, I dont know.


So what is this "original sin" you are talking about, exactly? Oh, eating an apple. Or our great great great great great10 grandmother eating an apple. How horrible. We should all be tortured horribly for eating an apple. That we didn't even eat. Your god is a pity fool punishing us for what we didn't do.
314d1
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But 'modern medicine' doesnt do that, right?


Do what? Make you live for ever? Neither does religion. But in a few centuries, with a tone of studies on the human brain, then it may be possible to "live for ever".
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Faith cannot be proven. I've seen enough to believe.


This statement seems at odds with itself. If faith can not be proven then how could it have been proven to you that it's true? If anything you've seen hasn't proven anything then why believe it?

Mary has Immaculate Conception. Hence, shes free from the original sin. As of Joseph, I dont know.


So your saying original sin only effects you if you have sex or have a kid? If not then why would such an event have any effect on her original sin?
iMogwai
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But 'modern medicine' doesnt do that, right?


Modern medicine, science, technology. Those are all made by humans, and not your God, so saying one of them can't do what another can does not support your case.
OperationNilo
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err... God made humans and gave them the ability to think.

Being atheist isnt your only 'crime'. I am sure you have insulted someone in your life. Look, another one!

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