Personally I do not celebrate easter but that mainly because of where it originated. I encourage you to find the truth and give me feedback on what you think
LOOOOOOOOL. Okay, God killed nearly every human being on this world with a flood. How many babies were killed? And how the **** could they deserve to die?!
Babies aren't born as clean slates. They are born evil in God's eyes due to original sin. They were also probably going to live evil lives considering that most people on the planet back in those days was wicked. Being an infant doesn't save you from any sort of punishment because your soul was already tainted.
Babies aren't born as clean slates. They are born evil in God's eyes due to original sin. They were also probably going to live evil lives considering that most people on the planet back in those days was wicked. Being an infant doesn't save you from any sort of punishment because your soul was already tainted.
Any proof? But you're right... F*ck little babies, they are all evil... Let's kill them all...
Any proof? But you're right... F*ck little babies, they are all evil... Let's kill them all...
Um... Can't tell if you're trolling, or your just very stupid... Anyways, nice way to twist my words there, buddy. You guys seem to do a reeeeaal nice job of it. God doesn't say "F*ck little babies". He wants them to be saved, but if there isn't a way possible in the life they're in, killing them would probably be best. Hopefully they got another chance. My proof? The Bible. And considering that this whole argument is based on the assumption that God is real, that is a valid source
Religion (of all kinds) is a sociological device, that is, created by man. Regardless of what the religion teaches, more often than not, the values and morals are roughly the same (or so higher education has made me think). That is, be the best person you can be.
Let's bring this one to a screeching halt, mmmkay? There is a huge difference between trolling and debating.
And no, the Bible is not 'evidence' of facts until it can be tested and verified. That is what many people don't understand. If your only evidence is the Bible then you either have to prove the Bible accurate independently, or find a new source of reference.
And the atheists, let's disagree politely. Trolling and resorting to insults is NOT appropriate behavior and it will not be tolerated.
Now, let's enjoy Zombie Jesus day in relative peace and merriment!
There has been discussion of religion vs science. As far as Christianity goes... There is one very big point of it. "The mystery of faith". Science can not provide evidence of how the mystery works, or there is no basis of faith. Much of the people in the bible were real, documented (other than religiously), some of the events are also real.
Science can not provide evidence of how the mystery works, or there is no basis of faith.
Actually science has determined why we have faith, and why religion is so prevalent and common among humans. If you are at all interested in the psychology of belief I highly recommend an excellent lecture by Dr. Andy Thompson. After that feel free to search the internet for scholarly articles explaining the studies cited and the scientific facts surrounding the psychology of faith.
So the sins of the father are visited unto the son? Kinda messed up, it's like saying, because your father killed someone, I am putting you in jail for 10 years.
You should be a lawyer, man. You are really good at twisting words. You get a smiley sunshine sticker for the day for your accomplishments! Original sin is NOT the sin of your parents, but the sin of Adam and Eve. If your dad does something evil, that doesn't make you evil. It is because of what Adam and Eve did that we are all condemned from birth.
And no, the Bible is not 'evidence' of facts until it can be tested and verified. That is what many people don't understand. If your only evidence is the Bible then you either have to prove the Bible accurate independently, or find a new source of reference.
I didn't say that, Doc. I said that this argument is based on an assumption that God is real. Therefore, the Bible can be used in the debate. If it wasn't, then you could've told me that.
I try and I try, but my post just fell on deaf ears. But thanks for the intervention anyways, Walker :P
So I say again. I honestly don't see how participating in a federal holiday based off religious origins, constitutes an entirely different, religious meaning, when you aren't intending on interpreting said holiday in that sense. I don't see how any holiday, be it Easter, Christmas, or any other holiday, should be taken with the same, consistent salt as the original definition of the holiday. If you claim to be participating in the holiday for a different reason, say for your family and relatives, then no one should give you lip, based off THEIR interpretation. I just want to feast on my chocolate Jesus, Christians, leave off.
He wants them to be saved, but if there isn't a way possible in the life they're in, killing them would probably be best.
God is omnipotent, right? So there is NO other way? Hm...
My proof? The Bible.
That's not an independet source for evidence. I mean just look at how often the Bible contradicts itself. And don't say that it doesn't, it's too obvious.
And the atheists, let's disagree politely.
Sorry, it's just kinda annoying if you hear the same debunked statements again and again. But you're right.
Much of the people in the bible were real, documented (other than religiously), some of the events are also real.
Yes, and many stories are historically false.
It is because of what Adam and Eve did that we are all condemned from birth.
I think that he was just making an analogy. But still, how is this any better or more justice?
I didn't say that, Doc. I said that this argument is based on an assumption that God is real. Therefore, the Bible can be used in the debate.
No, you still have to proof that this God is real and not another one. And you still have to proof that the Bible was inspired by God.
So I say again. I honestly don't see how participating in a federal holiday based off religious origins, constitutes an entirely different, religious meaning, when you aren't intending on interpreting said holiday in that sense. I don't see how any holiday, be it Easter, Christmas, or any other holiday, should be taken with the same, consistent salt as the original definition of the holiday. If you claim to be participating in the holiday for a different reason, say for your family and relatives, then no one should give you lip, based off THEIR interpretation. I just want to feast on my chocolate Jesus, Christians, leave off.
Just enjoy a day off. If people keep complaining about holidays then we won't have anymore days off!
I'm sorry for the poor wording, let me try again. What I meant to say is that the science while useful, and widely believed would take the mystery out of the mystery of faith. This is no argument for or against why we have faith, but an attempt to bring science into the "help to religion" topic.
(This is all from memory, sorry for the inconsistencies. Science (though I forget which test) was done to the shroud of Tourin (Jesus's burial cloth), and came back with inconsistent times. Many stopped believing that Jesus was real because of it. Many still believe that Jesus (was/did all his Jesus-y things), even though science had technically disproved that it was his cloth.
So I say again. I honestly don't see how participating in a federal holiday based off religious origins, constitutes an entirely different, religious meaning, when you aren't intending on interpreting said holiday in that sense. I don't see how any holiday, be it Easter, Christmas, or any other holiday, should be taken with the same, consistent salt as the original definition of the holiday. If you claim to be participating in the holiday for a different reason, say for your family and relatives, then no one should give you lip, based off THEIR interpretation. I just want to feast on my chocolate Jesus, Christians, leave off.
I wasn't even arguing for that point. Go and celebrate Easter however you want, I don't care. It's not a sin to celebrate it differently or for different reasons. It's about enjoying and having fun with your family.
