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InvisibleClarity
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It seems to me that, during my short time here on the forums, the majority of the AG Community is Atheist. Is this just me, or is there truth to my thoughts?

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Cinna
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Religion is the only thing that says "This is this and no other thing is right"


If you were speaking to someone who insisted that 2+2 equals five, would you say anything different? That's the definition of the truth buddy, there isn't any relative form of it.
Kasic
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If you were speaking to someone who insisted that 2+2 equals five, would you say anything different?


Well i'd first call them an idiot, because they obviously are (Unless they were like 1-4 years old)

That's the definition of the truth buddy, there isn't any relative form of it.


I'm trying to find what definition of truth you are attempting to say. So far as I can tell, you are saying that if someone insists 2+2=5, I should not contradict them. Which is utter bull. So please correct me, since I assume (Hope really) that this is not what you are saying. Point to one religious thing and say that they believe that they could be wrong about it.
Cinna
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Point to one religious thing and say that they believe that they could be wrong about it.


Well I'll get back on topic first, as you seem to have trouble comprehending what I'm saying.

Kasic, you are condemning christianity for saying 'we're right and no one else is'. If christianity is the truth, then what is wrong with saying this? The answer is nothing. Time should be spent refuting christianity, because until someone succeeds, they will continue to proclaim themselves the truth. Why believe something is wrong about the truth? It is silly to assume that 'arts' of the truth are incorrect. Would christianity say, 'we are right about this and wrong about this'? No, of course not.
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I have never started off attacking someone, and have never tried to attack someone for their belief, although I might get caught up in the argument.


You may not but there are quite a few who do on a daily basis
Kasic
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Well I'll get back on topic first, as you seem to have trouble comprehending what I'm saying.


No not really, I got that, what made no sense was your what would you do if someone said 2+2=5 analogy.

Time should be spent refuting christianity, because until someone succeeds, they will continue to proclaim themselves the truth


The problem is, you can't disprove something that doesn't exist via observations, unless you know for sure that you know everything, and that one thing does not exist. Obviously this is impossible. As some on here are so fond of saying, prove to me that a unicorn does not exist. There is no evidence against it, but you, you don't believe it. Why is that?

Again I ask, what has been taken down by religion in these debates here.
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You are one of the most insulting ones that I have seen and you just made a very obvious stereotype showing that you (a religious) resort to these methods of "discussion" as well.


And who are you to talk? I suggest you please add to the current subject at hand and stop critiquing everyone's debating methods, however crappy they may be. Sterotypes happen, get over it. I know it's not good but we have to deal with it. You may not like it. I don't like swearing yet every where I walk I hear the Fbomb there isn't anything I can do. If I ever tell someone to stop I get 10 more Fbombs in return. I'm sorry but it just won't work :/
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Again I ask, what has been taken down by religion in these debates here.


Your whole thing on how religon and science can't be both believed in was just taken down! They can coexist
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Again I ask, what has been taken down by religion in these debates here.


Kasic. Kasic, Kasic, Kasic. I wrote a whole PARAGRAPH on it. Listing something that has been 'taken down' by religion is as impossible as proving God doesn't exist.
The problem is, you can't disprove something that doesn't exist via observations,


Then why do so many atheists try? That would make them illogical. Not to mention that God is very easy to observe, if you only open your eyes to him.

Kasic, if you were walking down a hallway, and saw an ambulance outside the window, and asked twenty people what had happened, what would you think of these responses? Fifteen people told you that a classmate had fallen out a window and had to be taken away, while five others say that is impossible because THEY didn't see it, yet they themselves can give no explanation?
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Obviously this is impossible. As some on here are so fond of saying, prove to me that a unicorn does not exist. There is no evidence against it, but you, you don't believe it. Why is that?



First thing is first. This is one of those extremely overused questions. Probably in the top 5. Now if I can't disapprove a unicorn, the next question is 'why should I believe in the unicorn?'. So tell me, why should I believe in a unicorn if it can't be disproven
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Listing something that has been 'taken down' by religion is as impossible as proving God doesn't exist.


No, it's really not. Since science deals with things you can actually see and interact with at will, you should quite easily be able to "take it down" if it's wrong.

Kasic, if you were walking down a hallway, and saw an ambulance outside the window, and asked twenty people what had happened, what would you think of these responses? Fifteen people told you that a classmate had fallen out a window and had to be taken away, while five others say that is impossible because THEY didn't see it, yet they themselves can give no explanation?


Well since there's an ambulance, obviously it was a bad injury, which would likely mean from not the first floor. Also, as most windows have glass, i'd expect there would be a broken window, or at least a window that could open. I could also just go ask the kid if I really wanted if he fell out the window. That's the difference.
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First thing is first. This is one of those extremely overused questions


As already mentioned in my post.

So tell me, why should I believe in a unicorn if it can't be disproven


I don't know, I certainly don't, but i'm sure you could use the same reasoning that you use for god...
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No, it's really not. Since science deals with things you can actually see and interact with at will, you should quite easily be able to "take it down" if it's wrong.


Kasic come now. If God exists and made the world, what could him and his religion disprove about the world that HE made? If you cannot comprehend this point, please move on, because I've stated it before and you refuse to recognize that your argument is futile.
Well since there's an ambulance, obviously it was a bad injury, which would likely mean from not the first floor. Also,


Ambulances aren't reserved for minor injuries. What do they do for serious ones, transport them in an ice-cream truck? You have circumvented the purpose of the analogy with your failed logic.
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I don't know, I certainly don't, but i'm sure you could use the same reasoning that you use for god...


But I am not and there is no reason too. There is no unicorn bible and no unicorn that was send from unicorn land to save us and bring us to pure happiness forever. And that's why I don't believe in unicorns. Also science hasn't found any unicorns so there's another reason, since I follow both. Yes science hasn't 'found' God but they havenr tried too hard and won't ever given the scientific method and other sciencey stuff I learned in Bio last year Nd Chemistry this year
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Kasic come now. If God exists and made the world, what could him and his religion disprove about the world that HE made? If you cannot comprehend this point, please move on, because I've stated it before and you refuse to recognize that your argument is futile.


By your own reasoning, shouldn't EVERYTHING point to that there is a god? And yet, we find that life can start on it's own. We find that things change over time. We find that the earth is much older than any religious text says. We find that the universe is vast, and that the likely hood of other life is very small, but that there are so many chances it's improbable that there isn't at least one more planet that has life. If god wanted to, he could instantly prove to everyone that he is real. And yet he does not. He could leave hints for us to find that we could confirm. And yet he does not. He could at the very least make his own "holy text" non contradictory.

Ambulances aren't reserved for minor injuries. What do they do for serious ones, transport them in an ice-cream truck? You have circumvented the purpose of the analogy with your failed logic.


I honestly must ask, are you stupid? I did not say he had a mminor injury. You do not call an ambulance for a sprained ankle. Hence why I said 2nd story, broken glass, etc, which implies that he had an injury that could not be locally treated at the school.
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There is no unicorn bible and no unicorn that was send from unicorn land to save us and bring us to pure happiness forever.


That sucks.
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