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Krizaz
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What?! - This thread will live and die... With you.

What is this, you may ask...

Well, I'll tell you, this is my quest against bordom. This quest will involve me and you, it will involve me researching a writing about topics in my opinion, and about you responding to those opinions.

I am writing this because I think enough people know what my views are, and with that they won't be all confused (as much at least).

Each week I will be selecting a new topic to talk about, yes this is a bit like the topic that lets you discuss a topic, but this is more about you discussing my opinions and creating your own. This is like my own dictatorship.

Okay... Lets get into the dirty stuff

I've got the idea after watching a episode of The Daily Show, at the very end of the Daily Show when they ran a clip of Trump talking about his assumption that he did everything. In the interview he said something about not seeing Obama's birth certificate, kindly, the interviewer pulls out a copy of the certificate, and Donald immediately pushes it away. Now... What this is telling me is that Donald Trump only wants some attention, he doesn't care about the actual certificate, just about what it is doing to his image.

After typing his name on Google, I came across many results, such as... Donald Trump booed... Trump drops F-Bomb, Trump called racist. And this is only the first 3 articles that popped up. In any of those articles I did not hear 1 positive thing. What this should say to Donald is that he's a joke, he should have never been in they frey, and should have stick to firing people.

I'll be doing my own little summary of the 3 articles I mentioned

Trump booed at White House Correspondants Dinner

This was not random people booing him, these were members of the media, people selected to write articles and vlogs about this person. The reason he has been booed so wildly is because of stupid, stupid comments like these.

calling America's leaders "stupid" and declaring the United States was "not a great country"


All in all, int the past month, in which he has declared that he wants to run, or is hinting at it. He has said some of the stupidest things that anybody has ever said outside if the internet. This will obviously be used against him if he runs, and I don't see how he can be so idiotic to say things like this!

Trump Drops F-Bomb in Las Vegas Speech

Now this is just stupid. How can you be so dumb that you drop the F-Bomb, sure people have said the F-Bomb before, but not while thinking of running for president or for the GOPs top spot! All in all, just about every GOP candidate has said something stupid this year.

In this crazy 30-minute speech, Trump said several profanities in his speech, singling out political leaders and foreign policies for the most part. Therefore, making the entire world absolutely hate him, even though it's clear the press hates him.

Whilst saying that all his things are made in China, he also said that he is going to tax China through he roof, at %25! Does he have any idea how much that will make his products cost?! There is already enough inequality in China, does he want to make it worse by making Chinese companies compensate for that? Or is he just trying to shove China off completely, the USA can not survive without China as a trading partner.

"There is a really good chance that I wonât win because of one of these blood-sucking politicians."


Right you are. And I hope you don't win because your absolutely crazy!


About (Late) Last Night: David Letterman Calls Donald Trump Racist

This one has a video so you can listen to that and read!

David Letterman is my second favorite TV personality, second to Jon Stewart.

This was actually when Dr. Phil was on the show, the talks happened like this.

Letterman asked Dr. Phil, point-blank, "Do you consider him to be a racist?"

"I do not," he replied.

"Well how can you say things like that if you're not a racist?"

"I don't think he always thinks everything through," Dr. Phil said in a bit of an understatement. "I think sometimes he's a little from the hip. I don't think he has a racist bone in this body."


Now I have some respect for Dr. Phil, but I think he's being a bit of a favoritism because he's friends with Donald. As you can see, Letterman called Trump racist, which is correct, which white man has been called into question so deeply much like Obama has? McCain is less american than Obama, as far as I know McCain was born on a US Virgin Island, where Obama was actually born on a US State.

Trump is so racist he called his grandma black 'cause she's liberal. (Not true, but he would.)

It was obviously awkward for Phil, being a friend of Trump, as he tried to laugh it off as change the subject.

Recap!

What I think is that trump is a whack job who would ruin the country if he ever came close to being president. And that the USA is getting mentally stupid by the minute.



Watch the full episode for The Daily Show from April 28.

Look for a new topic to discuss in 1-3 weeks!
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Krizaz
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wow, how in the frakk did you associate the JFK assassination and racism? wtf?


I was using the JFK assassination as a time reference more than a racism reference since most people know he got assassinated in the 60's.

and if I agree 65% of what the Republican says, why not vote for him? Less work for me.


Because if that %45 of what you don't agree with out-weighs the the things you agree with, you obviously have to rethink your choice.
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I was using the JFK assassination as a time reference more than a racism reference since most people know he got assassinated in the 60's.
Duh he was assassinated in the sixties, but those two have no ties whatsoever, so that really doesn't support your argument.

Because if that %45 of what you don't agree with out-weighs the the things you agree with, you obviously have to rethink your choice.
I'll give you that, but I have never run into a situation like this before.
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I think you guys are not giving the citizens what they deserve. The republicans and the Democrats are the two parties we HEAR about, and yeah, most Americans will agree with a lot of issues on one side or the other. The average voter isn't going to go digging the depths of the internet to see what the stance is of (insert random minor party here.) it's too much work to fill out a little bubble, and if I agree 65% of what the Republican says, why not vote for him? Less work for me.


Because I do not support stupidity. Why should I give credit to a system run by a bunch of fifth graders? That's the average intelligence of and American and Canadian. I give your citizens as much credit as I do mine. Very little.

And sure you may agree with 65% of what someone says, but being lazy is why you're the way you are. That 65% is leaving out a big chunk of 35% and that 35% could have some seriously f'ed up ****ake in there. If you dug a little deeper maybe you and others would find a party you agreed with 80%, or 90% maybe even 100%. Laziness is not a valid excuse to watse the future of your country.
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Duh he was assassinated in the sixties, but those two have no ties whatsoever, so that really doesn't support your argument.


Lets just forget the whole thing and say racism has been around throughout all of history.
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Wolf, to me, you aren't making any sense whatsoever. The ideas between two parties are not defined to us by the legacy of the cold war. It is a definitive process of American history, the way OP put it -- we know traditionalism and liberalism and nothing else.

In fact, many politicians never clearly define themselves as perfectly one or the other. Obama is rated in Congress by many as a Liberal, yet those closer to the right on the Democratic side are whom you may seem to think of as a third party candidate. It's about who we choose, not which party bears weight. It's not just like this in the USA. I'm sure in Canada, people in a collective party with more conservative or liberal leanings put pressure on incumbent or running candidates to alter their policy.
Honestly, to tell us to cut a two party system would be to tell us to have stopped American government at President 2. Our only non partisan president that was never involved in a 2 party electoral system was George Washington -- following that it was Federalists and Democratic Republicans, then Democrats and Whigs, then Republicans and Democrats -- and the two have evolved over time.


As for Donald Trump, he's an idiot on TV, an idiot in the media, an idiot in anything when you talk to him.
^ But that's just so people hear about how rich he is and they spend more money on him.

He's not STUPID. He's RICH. He likes controlling people for a reason.
I don't think I'd vote for him, he's got aggressive stances on many policies and I heard him say that the president can change gas prices, which he can't. Which was stupid. And that is to say if he was president, he would ruin our relationship in the mIddle east by being lame.

thepyro222
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Lets just forget the whole thing and say racism has been around throughout all of history.
Yeah, but not everything everyone says is racist. There is also counter- racism. Have you heard of Affirmative action? where minorities get better choices in jobs and colleges simply because they are a minority? Racism is a problem, but it's not just for minorities anymore.
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And that is to say if he was president, he would ruin our relationship in the mIddle east by being lame.


He would ruin it my being too agressive and angering locals.

Racism is a problem, but it's not just for minorities anymore.


Yes, there is racism for all peoples, but they are not as focused on because of the social issues affronted by blacks.
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Have you heard of Affirmative action? where minorities get better choices in jobs and colleges simply because they are a minority?


You don't know what Affirmative action is. That's the blandest definition I've ever heard. This is usually accompanied with the minority being unemployed, a first generation applicant, or in a lower financial status. It's true that these people get a big of lee-way when it comes to colleges and job openings with very open room along with competition, but most court case rulings have gone against minorities when charged with Affirmative action only being used in the sense of race, without any extra feedback such as what economic conditions are like for that minority in his area, college rates, etc.
Whereas non-opposite racism in history has usually hurt the side being hit, Affirmative action isn't designed to hurt majorities.
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He would ruin it my being too agressive and angering locals


That's what I meant
Krizaz
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The most I have heard about Affirmative Action is scholarship money for minorities for being a minority, which personally I don't think is very fair that they would get special treatment.

Although, if there is a thing tat does look into every detail of that person to decide the course of action, that would be great!

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but they are not as focused on because of the social issues affronted by blacks.
Here we go... "The world hates be 'cause I'm black." That is just silly. No, it's just that blacks seem to be the most sensitive when it comes to racism. (please don't take this out of context.) It is because of the whole slavery and hundreds of years of suffering. There is racism against Jews, Muslims, and whites. If I were to walk onto the wrong street of Detroit, I would get shot just because I am white. There is racism all around, but it's not a major problem, it's people like you who make it a major problem.

@Blade: That's not true at all. It's mostly because they are a minority, it just so happens that most minorities are of the lower class.
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@Blade: That's not true at all. It's mostly because they are a minority, it just so happens that most minorities are of the lower class.


Your keyword is most. Take a minority living in a 2 million dollar house and nobody will consider him for Affirmative Action, even if his grandfather was a slave.
It's just that low class + years of slavery -- in an ethical sense to some, seems as a way to make Affirmative action valid.
And it's not a major problem until the race card is played. racism is in everyone's head. It's best to keep it in the back.

But I'm not disagreeing with you on everything else. The whole detroit thing is true. Unless you walked on 8Mile, then they'd mistake you for Eminem's cousin and keep the guns down
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Donald Trump's ego is ginormous! I want it caught and shot now so it isn't bigger than mine.

wolf1991
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Wolf, to me, you aren't making any sense whatsoever. The ideas between two parties are not defined to us by the legacy of the cold war. It is a definitive process of American history, the way OP put it -- we know traditionalism and liberalism and nothing else.


Yes, but that right there leads to stagnation. That right there is a tradtion well worn, and America won't let it go because of a social stagnation. Your entire history is based on the idea that innovation is good, but social change is bad. America takes a great deal longer to enact any social change because of this.

In fact, many politicians never clearly define themselves as perfectly one or the other. Obama is rated in Congress by many as a Liberal, yet those closer to the right on the Democratic side are whom you may seem to think of as a third party candidate. It's about who we choose, not which party bears weight. It's not just like this in the USA. I'm sure in Canada, people in a collective party with more conservative or liberal leanings put pressure on incumbent or running candidates to alter their policy.


I'm aware of this. However, the overall party stance is what the people see. The vast majority are not as educated in this. Maybe its time they were.

Honestly, to tell us to cut a two party system would be to tell us to have stopped American government at President 2. Our only non partisan president that was never involved in a 2 party electoral system was George Washington -- following that it was Federalists and Democratic Republicans, then Democrats and Whigs, then Republicans and Democrats -- and the two have evolved over time.


Fearmongering doesn't work well for me. I don't see why adding a thrid or fourth major party for some diversity and competetion is a bad thing. It could break the vicious cycle you call politics. Maybe even break the social stagnation you exist with.
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My thoughts on Donald Trump: he only said he was running to get publicity. His show The Apprentice already jumped up 9% in viewing from all this. You know why? Because there is no such thing as bad publicity.

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