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roflcopter117
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you decide!

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roflcopter117
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Really? Has the OP even opened a history textbook?
yes but this is all about opinion not openly insulting ppl im just saying some people think global terrorisim today is worse than millions of people getting killed by dictators and communist leaders
master565
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some people think global terrorisim today is worse than millions of people getting killed by dictators and communist leaders


It seems to be only you. If you can give any reason to why this is true than go for it.
roflcopter117
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It seems to be only you. If you can give any reason to why this is true than go for it.
well all the people lining the streets after osama was killed and after ww2 it was the same, im just saying people dont really care they are most current events
master565
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people dont really care they are most current events


People don't really care about what? If you are saying that people don't really care about the holocaust and Stalin because that happened 60 years ago than i have nothing more to say to you because you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
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@roflcopter

*facepalm*
*uberfacepalm*
....you can't compare the end of WWII to yesterday. They are not in the same universe, even. Figuratively.
And also, who is people? I didn't really care. But if it was the end to a war that devastated my whole life, the I'd probably go storm the streets with a megaphome.

roflcopter117
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it was a mistype i meant to say they only care about world events sorry

master565
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it was a mistype i meant to say they only care about world events sorry


That sounds like the same thing...
Can you retype the whole sentence with correct grammar?
wolf1991
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What reasoning is this?


Hitler firmly believed he was making the world a better place. He also effectively turned Germany into a world super power through economics and industry alone. His goals were twisted, however his methods were effective. Aside from the dictatorship and enforcement he ran Germany remarkably well. Yes he killed millions needlessly, and yes he did so viciously.

Stalin only wanted to better himself. Stalin was only looking out for himself. He killed anyone who would get in his was and Russia as a whole was a small prioritiy to him. He simply wanted to take all he could get as fast as he could.
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well all the people lining the streets after osama was killed and after ww2 it was the same, im just saying people dont really care they are most current events


...No. Just freaking no. No one celebrated the death of Hitler. And if they did they didn't do so publicly. You forget the war didn't officially end until bloody August of that year! They went "Okay Europe needs fixing. However, we need to finish the Pacific Campaign too."
TackyCrazyTNT
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O.o
Chillaxio, Wolfeh.
Though I do see where you're coming from with this, and I agree with you for the most part. However, don't you think Hitler partially did it for the power too?

wolf1991
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However, don't you think Hitler partially did it for the power too?


Oh definately. I never said he didn't. However, he had more reasoning to it than that.
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That's true, however twisted his way of thinking was. I'm sure Stalin wanted to make his cou try great too though....right? Though he did kill off most of his opposition. But Hitler did that too.
*quickly shuffles through euro notes*
(this is helping me study. Woot.)

wolf1991
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Stalin wanted to make his cou try great too though....right?


Yes and no. He wanted a strong industry for the Soviet Union, however he would abuse the labour force to horendous ends. He didn't care for the common man, just the upper class, and only if they weren't opposed to him.

Hitler realized he needed to inspire the common man. So he needed a mixture of purpose and fear to drive them. He instilled a great deal of pride in his people.

Picking between the two of them is difficult because they both did horrendous things. How I look at it is what they wanted to do. Stalin wanted slaves and to crush people like ants. Hitler wanted the world, a dark utopia of sorts, however part of him wanted a better life for his people. How he justified it though is well...you know.
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Hitler realized he needed to inspire the common man. So he needed a mixture of purpose and fear to drive them. He instilled a great deal of pride in his people.


In addition to that, Germany was in a financial crisis after World War One, as the peace agreement they were forced to signed demanded that they paid the victors large sums of money, as well as never built a strong army. They had been treated unfairly, and it lead them to poverty, so I can imagine the promise of a strong Germany, powerful enough to break that agreement, would be very appealing for the people. What Hitler promised was basically a better life for Germans, and a Germany other nations would respect.

I'm definitely not saying the ends justified the means, however.
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Holy crap. You really believe that "Stalin helped to America win WW2?"
America joined to war with Germany in 44 year, war was started in 39!
They joined to attack Germany AFTER USSR regain all territory and start counterattack.
They joined ONLY because they was scared that Stalin will SOLELY destroy Hitler. And he could.

Stalin wanted to make his country great too though....right?

Stalin DID his country great. After WW1 we had ruined agrarian economic. Before WW2 we had strong industrial economic. During WW2 we fight against industry of whole Europe.
Yes and no. He wanted a strong industry for the Soviet Union, however he would abuse the labor force to horrendous ends. He didn't care for the common man, just the upper class, and only if they weren't opposed to him.

Crap. During monarchy work was way harder. You can read some of Decrees about labor.

Picking between the two of them is difficult because they both did horrendous things. How I look at it is what they wanted to do. Stalin wanted slaves and to crush people like ants. Hitler wanted the world, a dark utopia of sorts, however part of him wanted a better life for his people. How he justified it though is well...you know.

That's why Hitler killed own jews? Wanted to kill all slavs?
Man, you are nazi.
Stalin NEVER looked at national differences, he even was from ethnic minority.
In past our people believe in communism, it was like Eden on Earth. We didn't had any prejudice about skin color, we still have university which trains students from Africa and Asia. Link. Can you say that Hitler had any equal idea of transnational friendship and peace?
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