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roflcopter117
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you decide!

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TackyCrazyTNT
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I wish I wasn't on a touch acreen now. I could provide more evidence in a shorter amount of time.
Gremlion, Stalin did help end WWII. He provided huge armies, and his burn and retreat method cost Hitler thousands of soldiers, thus weakening him. After Stalin joined, Hitler had to fight on a two front war, splitting his forces in two.
The second point I cannot even decipher, so I'll ignore that.
Same with the third. Grammar, man.
How is he a nazi? I actually agree with him for the most part. I'm not saying Hitler was right in any way, but his motives were intended to be good, in a twisted way.
Don't really know what you mean by the eden communism thing either.

I'm going to get ninjad, probably.

314d1
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Gremlion, Stalin did help end WWII. He provided huge armies, and his burn and retreat method cost Hitler thousands of soldiers, thus weakening him. After Stalin joined, Hitler had to fight on a two front war, splitting his forces in two.


That is what Gremlion is saying, but he is pointing out that the motherland would have defeated Hitler even if the U.S (As people keep saying 'Staling helped us win the war'.

The second point I cannot even decipher, so I'll ignore that.


He is saying that Staling did a good thing, by industrializing the country.

Same with the third. Grammar, man.


He is saying that Stalin was better than the pre-revelation Russia (though the revelation was WWI if I remember correctly).

How is he a nazi? I actually agree with him for the most part. I'm not saying Hitler was right in any way, but his motives were intended to be good, in a twisted way.


He is saying that so did Stalin.

I'm going to get ninjad, probably.


Nope.
TackyCrazyTNT
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Ah, thanks for clarifying, 314d.
Makes more sense now. :P

SirNoobalot
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burn and retreat method


Scorched Earth, deny anything useful to the enemy, including food, any form of shelter, etc.

I'll have to go with Stalin, Hitler killed 6 million Jews, but Stalin.... I think Stalin gets the title for Most Insecure, he killed so many even if they were just suspected of opposing him.. Osama, he lost his power in Al Qaeda a long time ago, while Stalin was in complete power and control until the day he died. Stalin gets the award for the worst.

Then again, I believe Mao Zedong was somewhere near 40-50 million, so he gets the Best Killstreak Award :P.
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I think Gremlion misread this:

Stalin was horrible too, but kudos to him for helping us win WWII.


As helping the US win WW2. And I guess he wanted to correct you by telling you that not only did the US join near the end of the war, the USSR also made the most sacrifices and progress.

Another thing that seemed to upset him was how you claimed Hitler got good results, whereas Stalin only caused harm to his country, something which Gremlion clearly disagreed with.

I know I got ninja'd, but here it is anyways.
TackyCrazyTNT
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Oh........
I wasn't referring to us as America. I was referring to us as everyone opposing Hitler. Yeah, the Soviet Union did sacrifice the most soldiers for the war, sadly.

Gremlion
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Um. Did you understand this:

1. In June 1941, the European Axis launched an invasion of the Soviet Union.
2. In 1943 the Axis lost the initiative and undertook strategic retreat on all fronts.
3. In 1944, the Western Allies invaded France, while the Soviet Union regained all territorial losses and invaded Germany and its allies.

It's not "After Stalin joined", it's "clinging to winner"
About second front - you overrate it. If you read some of great German writers, Erich Maria Remarque, for example, you could see that second front after our first - was like holidays for german armies.
How is he a nazi? I actually agree with him for the most part. I'm not saying Hitler was right in any way, but his motives were intended to be good, in a twisted way.
If he think that
part of him wanted a better life for his people
, he denial fact that Hitler killed own jews only for fact that they was jews.
TackyCrazyTNT
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1. Chillax, dood.
2. Read above post.
3. He killed Jews because he believed they were making Germany worse. He had a reason, but it was twisted and obviously untrue.
4. Its not nice to call people nazis.

lumpiaman510
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deaths occured during time of reign wise, i would say Hitler.

Quirinus1
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I think Mao was the worst. His bitter mentality is obvious when he said:
"I don't care about America's nuclear weapons. Even if I lose 600 000 000, there will still be 200 000 000 Chinese left."
Eventually he directly killed 40 000 000 Chinese.

As for Stalin, same story as Mao, he directly killed 20 000 000 men, women and children.

As for Hitler, he killed 17 000 000. Though the entire war killed over 60 000 000. But that is inclusive the Sovjet casualties, and the high-altitude-bombing techniques by the allies.

And as for Osama, he is way behind those killers named above. It would maybe reach to 10 000 people. But no more than that.

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Man, you are nazi.


Just because we share differing opinions does not make me a Nazi. You're Russian, I understand why you'd be somewhat offended at my remarks, however they're my personal observations from what I have studied.
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Osama is not a dictator. He is the leader of a large terrorist organization. Of course he does not compare to Hitler or Stalin, who were harsh, cruel leaders of entire countries.

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Stalin DID his country great. After WW1 we had ruined agrarian economic. Before WW2 we had strong industrial economic. During WW2 we fight against industry of whole Europe.

Actually. The great purge killed all the high officials of the USSR's army and made them weak. That's why the USSR was aiming for quantity, not quality. Also, Stalin kind of destroyed the food supplies by in storing industries and destroying farms. Which led to a huge famine.
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FACT- Stalin killed more of his own people than Hitler did
he commited purge after purge, against jews christians politicians military officers, cossacks, and anyone else he doint like, this is not even taking into account the terrible conditions of prisons and gulags where many were killed, in many ways stalin was far worse than hitler

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in many ways stalin was far worse than hitler


Yeah, you have to think of the ethics. Hitler was trying to conquer the world and make it a better place for the "chosen" while Stalin was like "f-you world, I am doin' this **** my way" for no real reason other than power.
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