ForumsWEPRIs celebrating Osama's death really all that wrong?

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mysteriousmexican666
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I mean he DID kill thousands of people over his career...

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sprooschicken
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What does it matter? People are happy winning the battle, let them. After the years long pursue for the guy I think it earns the right to be labeled a symbolic victory.


they have no need to celebrate, no one has earned anything, the war on terror hasn't exactly gone well and the fact that America spent so much time and effort looking for a man that's capture wouldn't do much just shows its inability to move on

Right, ok so we haven't Exactly won yet. The Death of an Inspirational Leader is demoralizing to our opponent.

actually its hasn't done that at all it has just made them angrier
GoblinD
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Made them angry but showed them no one can run away after doing something like 9/11 and killing the man who had so much propaganda supporting him and religious support. There's no question it demoralizes the enemy but that doesn't mean its not going to make them fight harder.
If there's a need to celebrate or not it doesn't mean its wrong to celebrate. Let people be wrong, no harm done.

FireflyIV
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Let people be wrong, no harm done.


Somehow I don't think the sight of Americans celebrating Osama's death is going to engender much sympathy among the citizens of the Middle East. America was up in arms when there were celebrations in the aftermath of the 911 attacks in the Middle East. By your logic, a completely justified celebration of a symbolic victory (for them).

My personal view is that I find it just a tad creepy. Nonetheless, it's unsurprising seeing as how sensitive and vulnerable Americans felt after an attack on home soil. Basically, I understand it, but don't really condone it. We in the UK have had bombings too, and when we caught the culprits, we don't have street parties. All I'm saying.
Armed_Blade
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We in the UK have had bombings too, and when we caught the culprits, we don't have street parties. All I'm saying.


Not to sound like the UK bombings don't matter -- but 9/11 drastically changed American foreign policies and America's views on the world. Imagine a bunch of people that saw themselves at the gleaming center of hope in the world getting hated on by seeing two of their best buildings fall to the floor.

I'm not saying I approve of the street parties, I actually agree that it's a little creepy. But in America, where you find the strangest of people, there are always some insane patriots so after something as big as 9/11 I wasn't expecting much less [if this were to have happened, say, 5 years ago, I'd have expected even bigger parties]
GoblinD
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The people who get angry when Americans celebrate Osama's death hate America anyway. I don't think Osamas death makes any difference when it comes to that. Well maybe a little in Pakistan but Pakistan's a complicated story.

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I hated how American's celebrated Osama's death, I don't even support Osama or Al Quaeda and I do NOT hate America, the celebration of death is just wrong - you can celebrate the peace or closure it brings but celebrating the fact that someone was gunned down just seems completely and utterly out of order and stupid.

Sssssnnaakke
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I hate how they could have let him live and they didn't.

HahiHa
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The people who get angry when Americans celebrate Osama's death hate America anyway.

Nothing as good as random accusations to face criticism
FireflyIV
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Not to sound like the UK bombings don't matter -- but 9/11 drastically changed American foreign policies and America's views on the world.


Both bombings killed a proportionately tiny amount of the native population. The only difference is you're not used to being bombed, and we are, by the American funded IRA, I might add.

But in America, where you find the strangest of people, there are always some insane patriots


Believe me, we have them in abundance over here, it's not an excuse. And I saw the news. It wasn't just nutty patriots, it seemed like it was average Johnny Yank out on the street flag waving. I wouldn't have found it creepy if it was the crazy patriots, but it wasn't.
Darkroot
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I mean he DID kill thousands of people over his career...


So did Bush your former president. Not that your wars are justified in America it just seems to be part of the business model.

1. Trick the public to accepting the justifications of war.
2. Invade and completely screw the nation over.
3. Implement your own government and military.
4. Resources!
Xcalibur45
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So did Bush your former president. Not that your wars are justified in America it just seems to be part of the business model.

1. Trick the public to accepting the justifications of war.
2. Invade and completely screw the nation over.
3. Implement your own government and military.
4. Resources!


I do agree with that to some degree. All Al'Quida wants is to remove western influence from their land.
GoblinD
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I hated how American's celebrated Osama's death, I don't even support Osama or Al Quaeda and I do NOT hate America, the celebration of death is just wrong - you can celebrate the peace or closure it brings but celebrating the fact that someone was gunned down just seems completely and utterly out of order and stupid.

I think its more complicated the saying people are celebrating his death. They are celebrating the victory in killing him, not the fact he is dead. Well at least some people do that and I'd like to think most do it this way.
I mean, if an Al-Qaeda rival would have assassinated Osama instead, do you think people would also celebrate it? Most people I know wouldn't because they would not see it as a victory, but they might be happy to hear it.


Nothing as good as random accusations to face criticism

Some people hate how Americans celebrate Osama's death without hating America first but when you're talking about Arab countries with Government Propaganda running the news I think the majority of people that would be angry would be those people that would be sad he died in the first place. AKA people who hate America anyway.
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I think it's a bad idea to celebrate his death. mainly because even in all of the terrible things he had done, he is still a human being. human ideology can be warped all the time, just look at the muslim dynasties after muhammad (sorry if this is any bit offending) they slowly distorted his doctrine which led to things like the harem being accepted into muslim doctrine even though muhammad was completely against it.

Bladerunner679
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sorry, I wasn't able to finish the post. here's the rest:

this is simply just another case of distorted philosiphy. because of that fact, he killed many people for his ideals. It's okay to celebrate that it's over, but when you cheer about a bullet in a man's eye, that's where human ethics kicks in.

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His death shouldn't be celebrated. We should just be glad one of the greatest terrorists the world has faced is gone and leave it at that. Some cultures and religions find celebrating ones death offensive.

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