I ask this because a lot of these forums are of why people believe there is a God but, what about those out there who don't believe in a God? Why don't you think there is a God at all?
Well, one might be able to bring up the point that earth being placed in the right distance away from the sun not to far where we freeze to death not too close where we burn to death. Another, that the world has a specific systems to survive not being a coincidence that somebody out there created us in the perfect way.
Are you defending theists or are you pretending not to be one?
There are millions, maybe even billions, of other planets out there - it's only inevitable that one of them would be in the viable temperature/distance zone.
You are 1 person. Out of 6,000,000,000. On one planet. Out of 100,000,000. In one galaxy. Out of 100,000,000. In one universe. Out of a possible infinite amount of universes (alternative reality theory).
Just to help elaborate what you was saying. Chances of life? Slim. Amount of planets? Extremely plenty. Possibility? A lot.
Btw the little thing I did with the 1 person 6,000,000,000 etc. There's a picture of it I think on Google Images that someone shown. Please do so again.
I don't believe because of the complete lack of evidence and how belief is so heavily faith based. To accept such a claim with no basis while denying another would be entirely arbitrary and illogical, especially with such an incredible claim which demands evidence to back it. Further more many specific claims of God are proven wrong and contradictory, forcing those making the claim to placed them in a realm of the unobservable, which would then lead us back to simply having to accept a baseless claim. It also forces those making such claims to come up with more and more excuses just to hold on to their presumptions.
Well, one might be able to bring up the point that earth being placed in the right distance away from the sun not to far where we freeze to death not too close where we burn to death. Another, that the world has a specific systems to survive not being a coincidence that somebody out there created us in the perfect way.
Even if we didn't have the insane number of planets, something fitting the mold it was cast in is not at all surprising. Even then that "mold" is very narrow with many places even on Earth being ill suited for human life. We are also far from perfect, with many flaws which go as far as our basic form.
@valkery i get most of your point, but why do you be;lieve in god because he hasnt been disproven, surely it would be far more logical to not believe until he had been thoroughly proven, its like you cant prove that im not really a secret agent from mars sent by the giant queen spider to poison the cheese of planet earth, you cant completely 100% prove what im saying isnt true but by your logic it means that must be the truth
i think that is called specious reasoninig, and the best example i can give you is from my old pal homer:
it has contradicted itself and is on shaky grounds.
That, and I found the morals behind it wrong ANYWAY
- H
He didn't say "the God", as in the Christian God. He meant ANY God. With any moral system. Like one who made people in order to entertain himself. Why don't you believe in that God?
As our knowledge of how things work becomes ever-clearer it is increasingly easy to see that any sort of deity would only be an unnecessary and extraneous element in an already complete system.
Yeah, science has revealed so much about the idea of consciousness. Oh, wait a minute, science hasn't proven a THING about how consciousness works.
In fact, my belief in a God stems from my belief in a human soul as the only possible explanation for our consciousness.
I only think that there was/is a god for one reason, and that reason is, he hasn't been thoroughly disproven yet.
By this reasoning, to remain consistent you must also accept absurd claims such as that god being made of spaghetti, the existence of flying invisible purple elephants, or magic pixies. Non of these things have been disproven to exist.
"When it comes time to decide what to believe, if we did not assume such "unprovables" were false, we would either have to choose which unprovables to believe by some totally arbitrary means, which amounts to a ridiculous "belief by whim" method, or else we have to assume that all such statements are true."
i don't belive there's a god because why would an all-powerful being create us just to watch us suffer? not a very loving and forgiving god if you ask me. but also, there's no proof that there is a god. when proof is given to me that it exists and it can be proven with actual facts, ill belive that there's a god.
i don't belive there's a god because why would an all-powerful being create us just to watch us suffer?
So everyone suffers? No one is happy? Last I checked almost everyone appreciates the fact that they're alive.
there's no proof that there is a god.
But there is evidence, and there are plausible postulates. For instance, if we have free will, then we are outside the laws of physics; whence came such ability then? It makes most sense that it comes from something that put it there, rather than a ruleless entity spawning from a system of rules.
most people that are happy to just be alive usually aren't alive for long (i'm talking about the poorest and the most war-torn countries here). why would any god sit there and watch starvation and innocent people die when it could be fixed with the snap of this god's finger? and the big bang theory answers that last bit you said.
But there is evidence, and there are plausible postulates. For instance, if we have free will, then we are outside the laws of physics; whence came such ability then?
I don't see how that is outside the laws of physics. It could easily be a result of how our brain has evolved. There are also those who argue that free will is just an illusion and doesn't actually exist.
