also are they not pedo like some christian priests or terrorists like some islamic imams.
I thought these types of things were moral, not religious... christianity doesn't breed pedophilles, some pedophilles just happen to also be christian. Which, then becomes a worse problem as they tend to trick little girls and boys while using religion.
I thought these types of things were moral, not religious... christianity doesn't breed pedophilles, some pedophilles just happen to also be christian. Which, then becomes a worse problem as they tend to trick little girls and boys while using religion.
it happens so often it gets scary. even the pope is holding up his hand for those priests to hide under. i wouldn't allow my kids to go to a priest until they are old enoufg to fight back from those kinda things (age 15 16)
then becomes a worse problem as they tend to trick little girls and boys while using religion.
it also go's the other way around. because priests are not allowed to have sex whit woman. they become hungry for sex after some years. and then use childs because they wont be shouting it out load as woman will if you r*pe them. they can press kids down to a point that they wont tell any1. if those people never became priests then they most likely would never become pedo.
anyway because of some of those priests are pedo and come on the news and the pope is "helping" them. they become critised more then then other religions. (wich was the point i tried to make whit that sentence)
anyway because of some of those priests are pedo and come on the news and the pope is "helping" them. they become critised more then then other religions. (wich was the point i tried to make whit that sentence)
Oh ok then. I thought you meant something else. Sorry.
i don't see faith as good instandly. faith can just be as bad as good. for example some1 whit a serius disease doesn't go to the docter because the person has faith in psychic healer. and in the end they die because of the disease.
This is a narrowminded view. When I talk about faith, I meant the conviction that there's a light at the end of the tunnel kind of faith. Not a blind faith that God will solve everything.
care? care what? i care, i just don't care about religion
Compassion for others. Extending a helping hand. Perhaps putting in a little more effort into thinking might help.
also are they not pedo like some christian priests or terrorists like some islamic imams.
Again don't generalize. We had headlines in Singapore before of homosexual, and pedophile Buddhist priests.
so every atheist is hatefull? kindness is a moral thing not a religius thing.
A small request. Stop putting words in my mouth. Just because I said religion breeds kindness, doesn't mean the same spirit can't come from atheists. Kindness is a moral thing. Religion is also about morals. Therefore?
i understand by now that other peoples view of generalizations is different from mine. i know that there are always lots of exceptions when a general term is used. i use general terms to shorten sentences. if i have to discribe the precies person i ment then my posts will become 3 times as long as they are already.
It isn't that hard to attach a simple phrase like ''a little'', ''a small minority''. And in this case, I would think the exceptions are in fact your ''generalizations''.
it happens so often it gets scary. even the pope is holding up his hand for those priests to hide under. i wouldn't allow my kids to go to a priest until they are old enoufg to fight back from those kinda things (age 15 16)
It's because these individuals make headlines. Your average run of the mill priest doesn't. Therefore if we are shown such people instead of viewing the vast majority of those who aren't, what image do we have?
Give me a statistic that prove a large proportion of priests do so. Go on.
it also go's the other way around. because priests are not allowed to have sex whit woman. they become hungry for sex after some years. and then use childs because they wont be shouting it out load as woman will if you r*pe them. they can press kids down to a point that they wont tell any1. if those people never became priests then they most likely would never become pedo.
Orthodox Priests can marry. Many priests of Eastern denominations can. Even some churches in the Catholic Church allows marriage. Anglicans allow their priests to marry.
I meant the conviction that there's a light at the end of the tunnel kind of faith. Not a blind faith that God will solve everything.
the faith i discribed is not blind. it wold be blind if i said he didn't go to a docter because god will cure it. he went to a psychic healer. wich told him that he will be fine in a few months just if he comes back to him a few times. the psychic healer gave him faith. just like religion is giving faith about heavon.
Compassion for others. Extending a helping hand.
it's a moral thing not a religius thing.
Again don't generalize. We had headlines in Singapore before of homosexual, and pedophile Buddhist priests.
they have not been on the news so often in the western world as christian priests and islamic imams. my points (for the 2nd time) was not that all of them are pdeo or terrorist. but that that is the reason that they get critised more then other religions. (maybe it's different in non-western countrys but i can't know that i don't live there. and this forum is mostly whit western people)
Religion is also about morals.
religion is also about morals yes. but you don't need religion to have good morals.
It isn't that hard to attach a simple phrase like ''a little'', ''a small minority''. And in this case, I would think the exceptions are in fact your ''generalizations''.
i simply don't care to reply to that. you can't or don't want to understand. to bad for you.
they have not been on the news so often in the western world as christian priests and islamic imams. my points (for the 2nd time) was not that all of them are pdeo or terrorist. but that that is the reason that they get critised more then other religions. (maybe it's different in non-western countrys but i can't know that i don't live there. and this forum is mostly whit western people)
I think it's partially because those are the two largest religions in the world. So they'll have more natrually have more people, and of different types of people.
I think it's partially because those are the two largest religions in the world. So they'll have more natrually have more people, and of different types of people.
atleast do you unlike him understand that i don't mean all priests or imam are pedo or terrorists. but that i said that as reason why those 2 religions are getting more publicity then other religions. and indeed like i said. they have grown the biggest in the western world so. that is why we hear more about them then voodoo or whatever.
atleast do you unlike him understand that i don't mean all priests or imam are pedo or terrorists. but that i said that as reason why those 2 religions are getting more publicity then other religions. and indeed like i said. they have grown the biggest in the western world so. that is why we hear more about them then voodoo or whatever.
The way you argued seems like you meant all.
religion is also about morals yes. but you don't need religion to have good morals.
I never said it was! My point was that religion can breed it too. To which you twisted my words to make it seem one cannot be kind without religion. I quote you here.
so every atheist is hatefull?
i simply don't care to reply to that. you can't or don't want to understand. to bad for you.
I did understand what you meant, after you clarified in your second post. Originally, you didn't mention that it was specific, rather, you labelled them and painted them with broad strokes.
I quote you again. Please point out how your statements were in anyway fair.
just 2 things that can make the world a better place stoped by religions (namely christians)
why must we remember that all the time if some other christians think that all not god believers (atheists) have choosen for satan? it's just stupid.
There you go. Perhaps checking your initial statements do help.
you asked my to write a little befor it when i didn't ment them all. but then you also have to read more carfully because i said "some" priests and "some" imams
all whit all i think it's a waste of my time to talk whit you. =)
you asked my to write a little befor it when i didn't ment them all. but then you also have to read more carfully because i said "some" priests and "some" imams
all whit all i think it's a waste of my time to talk whit you. =)
Didn't I acknowledge you already did that in your second post? My main rip was in your initial statement as stated above.
because the abrahamic religions have grown big over most of the western world in history and so we know most of it to see the contradictions see how bad it can be at times etc. bhuddists for example never cared for what sientists are doing or what governments are doing. so they also never become a problem for scientists or the government. so they never hit the news because they are against this or that again.
also are they not pedo like some christian priests or terrorists like some islamic imams.
whitout religions: abortions wasn't that big of a deal, stamcell research wold be allowed.
there i'm speaking about the religion not people of the religion. i point out what the effects are of religion policy and ideas on a world scale. how it effects what governments and people talk about.
just 2 things that can make the world a better place stoped by religions (namely christians)
then i say my idea of it.
why must we remember that all the time if some other christians think that all not god believers (atheists) have choosen for satan?
here i ask why we must remember all personal believes and changes if it is about how it effects the world. like i stated in the 1st 2 sentences. and used a example from earlyer in the topic that some1 said that all not believers follow rules from satan.
