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EmperorPalpatine
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Although they claim to have found a Hawaiian certificate, is it for real, or was it faked?

Here's a link to a PDF of the Hawaiian one.


Here's a link to a site with a video containing the Kenyan birth certificate.


According to Obama's own half-grandmother, he was born in Kenya.

Apparently, Obama Sr was visiting his parents and took his pregnant wife along. She disliked the way Muslim men there treated their women and was also discriminated for being white. She wanted to go back to Hawaii. Plans were made to send her back, but she went into labor a few hours before her flight and was unable to board the plane. The child, Obama, was born. They then went back to Hawaii.

Would it really change anything if this was true?
Impeachment? Reverse everything to the way it was?
What do you think?

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314d1
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...Oh no. Not his half grandmother. If you can't trust them, who can you trust?

Now, could you please show an unbiased source? From what I can tell, Obomba has released his birth certificate to the public. So what is the problem here? Where are they basing this information on?

James212
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You if you search it up on google you might find the asnwer.

chitown
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If he really was born in Kenya then he would have never been a candidate. The government would make sure that he is American born.

314d1
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You if you search it up on google you might find the asnwer.



Nope. Not even google can find anything but joke forgeries.
Nurvana
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I'm a bit insulted that someone would question the american government to the point that they suggest someone could get away with lying about their birthplace to become the PRESIDENT.

Armed_Blade
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Whatever. He clearly spent 99.999 percent of his life in America, grew up in an American household, and nobody cares about whether he was born in Kenya and then instantly transferred to hawaii to recieve a fake birth certificate and somehow wind up as the senator of chicago.

Moe
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Even if this was true it wouldn't matter, with his mother being a U.S. citizen he would have been too. However there is no credible source that I have every seen that says he was born anywhere but Hawaii.

akqpars
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Its just politics have broght him here. Being black and muslim speculations running around. Just a puppet as always it is.

CalvinKidd137
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[quote][i]If he really was born in Kenya then he would have never been a candidate. The government would make sure that he is American born.

Well If he forges his certificate then I think the government will think that he is American. I think that he was born in Kenya.

iMogwai
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According to Obama's own half-grandmother, he was born in Kenya.


What did the other half say? Bad joke, I know.

What is a half-grandmother anyways? I know you can have half-brothers or sisters, but you can't have a half-parent, so how could you have a half-grandparent?

Anyways, chitown said it best:

If he really was born in Kenya then he would have never been a candidate. The government would make sure that he is American born.


I'm pretty sure the government can find that information easier than some xenophobic conspiracy theorist, and they're far more likely to tell the truth too.
Moe
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Well If he forges his certificate then I think the government will think that he is American. I think that he was born in Kenya.


The problem with this is that even if his mother gave birth to him in Kenya he would still be qualified to become the president.
iMogwai
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yes, he was born in kenya according to his biography.


The president was born on Hawaii. I think what causes the confusion is that his father was born in Kenya, and his father had the same name. The birth certificate thingie from Kenya was probably either fake, or his father's.
grimml
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Not this again... Okay, let's look at your source. Read some of their articles. Also read the RationalWiki article.

The European Union Times claims to be a news site. Its articles on Barack Obama have been linked from a few Libertarian teabag blogs, presumably pleased to find what is apparently a news site that supports some of their views. It even has lots of mainstream advertising served by ContextWeb! Eminently respectable to all appearances.
Upon closer inspection, however, it is little more than a compiler and regurgitator of various news stories and a particularly unpleasant far-right leaning blog. The reporting is, without exception, shockingly unprofessional. Do not be fooled by the nice WordPress theme - this is utter neo-Nazi bollocks.


Probably you will say that RationalWiki is biased too (and that's why you should read some of the articles). But I'll show you some of the comments on the birth certificate video.

We know that th n*gga was born in Kenya. His father is n*gger and his momma is a jewish prostitute. So far, so good.
Spread this word throughout the internet, one day it will reach enough peopel to make that dumb n*gger recalled or better: removed from America.
N*GGERS OUT!

Hey Karen you Jew b*tch â" itâs not about âgetting hate under controlâ. Go tell your rabbis to do that, re: Palestinians, and OK-ing the pre-emptive killling of Gentile babies, in case that MAY grow up and hate Jews.
Insurgent is RIGHT. His words are TRUE. Righteous wrath, and hatred, are GOOD. Hatred of EVIL is GOOD. Truth is what MATTERS. You stupid b*tch.
So eff off Jew *****.


I hate to tell you Hitler was what is considered a Liberal today! NAZI Stands for National SOCIALIST what exactly do you think Obama is? He and Hitler would have been great buddies, and the similarities are profoundly frightening.


I TOTALLY AGREE WITH ABBY ALDERS. THE PEOPLE WHO DONâT SEE THE LIGHT BY NOW ARE EITHER OF COMMUNIST PERSUASION, OR THEY ARE TOTALLY IGNORANT WITH A COMPLETE HEAD/**** INSERTION COMPLEX.

Obama is a Muslim pure and simple and is here to divide and conquer.

That is the stupidest theory I have ever heard lol reatrdâ¦Heâs a Marxist Muslim plain and simple, he hates the Jews how could he be installed by them..


I know that the comments don't actually say anything about an article/video. But it's pretty clear to me what kind of viewers this "news site" has and what kind of articles they make. Also look at some of the subsections they have: Zionism, Communism, Nationalism, Multiculturalism, Homosexuality, Pedophilia, Eurabia... A news site looks different to me.
EmperorPalpatine
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Someone asked earlier, "How can you have a half-grandmother?"
(My phone's internet is very slow, so someone else can look it up to be sure) I think his Grandpa remarried after his first wife died.

indie55
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Wouldn't that just be a step-grandmother, then. Not sure.

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