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cormyn
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Hey everyone,

In my time at Armor Games, I've seen a few new moderators come on board, and every time we promote a user to Moderator status, there's always a flurry of "why wasn't I picked?" or "I think _____ should be a Moderator" or "why is ________ still a moderator" or lots of other questions about what it really takes to be a Moderator on the site.

As of this writing, I have three comments on my profile asking for 'exact' requirements for becoming a Moderator.

I know we have information scattered around the site, but I wanted to sum up briefly a few of the core things we look for in a user in order to be nominated to become a Moderator. Hopefully this will help clear up some of the confusion.

This topic is meant to be informational in nature. I will delete any message containing text which is negative towards our current team, comments suggesting some other user be nominated, replies of "well, I guess I'll never qualify" or anything else off-topic -- even if your message contains other good ideas. This is not the place for *those* discussions.

Also, it should be obvious that this list is NOT complete, because we don't want to give away EVERY detail about what we look for in a moderator. And this list is also subject to change over time, especially when AG3 launches.

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BACKGROUND

We are obviously much more strict in our criteria than other sites, but that's only because we already have the best users out there and we want to be sure that anyone being a Moderator can follow our rules, guidelines, and get along with others.


THE PROCESS

In a nutshell, candidates are presented to the entire Moderator team, and are reviewed thoroughly by an Admin. The Moderator team decides unanimously (the exception being users who are on hiatus/holidays) on whether to accept the user or not; a negative response could either be "this user should never be a moderator" (and give reasons why) or "let's check back in 3-6 months". If an affirmative decision is made, an Admin user will Email the user asking if they'll accept the role and responsibilities. If the user accepts, the Admin user will promote them to become a probationary Moderator. We guide probationary Moderators for a little while and then release them into the wild.


HOW WE FIND USERS

There are two ways we find potential nominees.

First and foremost is by daily interactions within the forums or user profile comments. That's not to say that ONLY &quotopular" people will get nominated, but we're not likely to nominate someone that nobody really knows. We've recently passed on a half dozen users because none of us really know them as individuals. We'll start paying more attention to them now, of course.

The second method we use is a piece of software I wrote which takes some of the quantifiable criteria mentioned below and scans our database looking for users who qualify. Generally, this software finds HUNDREDS of users, and then starts disqualifying them based on other factors. Once it reports the users to me, I examine the user profiles, and then present a final list of nominees to the Moderator team. Candidates to whom the Moderator team give a definitive 'no way, never', we add to a 'skip' list so the software won't even look at them next time. There's a second "skip list" for users we want to check back on in a few months.

The last scan I did, which resulted in Freakenstein being added to the team, found almost 400 users, filtered them down to less than a dozen, and we were left with one definite 'yes' (Freakenstein), and a handful of "let's check back later" candidates (who we will not name).


SOME OF THE CRITERIA WE LOOK FOR

To be considered as a Moderator nominee, here are SOME of the things we look for. This list is not complete and is subject to change at any time without notice. We may or may not alter this forum posting to describe new or changed criteria. Also, meeting all of this criteria doesn't guarantee anything, because the rest of the Moderator team still has to vote on accepting you into our small team.

- You obviously need to have an excellent understanding of our Terms and Conditions for being on the site, and know the Rules & Guidelines for both the forums and game/user comments. And you follow them yourself.

- You need to stay up to date on things happening at Armor Games, especially with Armor Games v3 coming out later this summer. Users who have been in the beta since late last year will get extra points.

- You need to have an exceptional grasp of the English language (excellent spelling and grammar) but being fluent in one other language for support purposes may help your chances. You don't need to be an English professor, but 1337-speaking / textmsg writing styles, or writing styles which are difficult to read/understand will disqualify you.

- You need to be able to take criticism, from Admins, other Moderators, and especially other users. And you need to humbly accept this criticism when it's "constructive", or learn when it's "destructive" and deal with it accordingly without losing your cool.

- You need to be at LEAST 18 years of age; if you don't share your birth date on your profile (at least the year and month), you'll never even show up on our radar. And we have backups of our user data, so don't go changing your profile birth date trying to cheat the system -- we'll ask for proof.

- You need to have been an active, consistent member of the site for a minimum of 12-18 months. Big gaps in your login/posting history will generally reset this timer.

- You must be a genuinely helpful person within several forums. We watch where you post, how frequently you post, how many times you've posted in each forum, whether you're posting just to jump in on the conversation or genuinely getting involved in the topic, etc.

- We look for well-rounded users who also have good communication via user comments, but not to an excessive (spammy) degree. As such, users who carry on really long conversations back and forth (technically against our rules) will probably get passed on.

- We look for a minimum participation level from forum posts AND user comments. We need to see that you don't just focus on one type of commenting. Obviously we won't quantify these "minimum" values, because we don't want users trying to cheat the system.

- We look for a minimum number of rated games and game comments, and *recent* game ratings and comments, because we need to know you're actually playing the games and having fun too, not just hanging out in the forums 95% of the time. If you never participate in game comments, how will you recognize bad game comments versus merit-worthy comments?

- You must not have excessive quantities of user/game comments removed as spam. "Excessive" is subjective, but we can see how many comments you've had deleted, and we weigh that as a ratio against your remaining active comments.

- Generally, we tell users that even a single temporary ban will disqualify you. A temp-ban for flaming, spamming, harassment, fighting, racial comments, excessive swearing, or blatant rule breaking like hacking will certainly disqualify you. But if the temp-ban happened a long time ago (more than a year and a half), while we never "expunge" them from your history, we may treat them lighter than if your temp-ban was more recent.


WHAT DO WE EXPECT FROM OUR MODERATORS

New Moderators will start out working on cleaning up game comments and forum posts, and looking for merit-worthy game comments. They'll also continue to be helpful in the forums and via user comments to offer help and support, making sure other users are aware of the rules of the web site (and follow them).

We understand that life throws a curve-ball now and then, and while we certainly don't expect Moderators to be on the site every single day, we do expect that you're on the site several times per week. We also expect Moderators to take a break/holiday from time to time. This isn't a paid job, you're doing it for free, so don't feel guilty if you need to step away for a little while. Excessive absences may get you demoted back to regular user status.

And of course, you can always turn us down if you don't want to be on the team, and you can leave the team at any time as well.

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Hopefully that helps clear up some of the confusion about what kind of users we look for as Moderators.

Let the discussion begin.

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Freakenstein
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Freakenstein
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You posted a billion times a minute, super intellectual, and I was jealous that you already had two merits in the short-ish amount of time!


I only had ~4800 posts before modded, I'm dumb, and the only merit I had before then was at a haiku contest where I made the judge laugh due to my dumbness

OK, Thanks guys. I was just wondering because i used to use another website that had weird criteria and i was just wondering whether it was me thinking it was weird, or that it was to way to do things. For example, they have and maximum age for what i suppose you would call the equivalent of a moderator and i was just wondering if this was standard practice.


The "consensus" on the age minimum was "set in place" around when I was modded, and after Cormyn decided to create this thread. If user A was 17 nearing 18 and he was like the only guy acceptable enough to be a mod out of a group of high AP/post misfits, we'd either accept him or wait until he was 18 and then accept him.
Krizaz
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I only had ~4800 posts before modded, I'm dumb, and the only merit I had before then was at a haiku contest where I made the judge laugh due to my dumbness


Alright maybe you just have good punctuation and basic english skills then. And hah, only! 4.8K is quite a bit!
NMeade
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NMeade
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Wait how come I only see one active moderator (Freakenstein)? The about page shows that there are more, but how come they don't post?

Cenere
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Cenere
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Because they are pulling the reigns backstage. People assume that active = visible, but it isn't correct. When most threads can be locked with a tag in the title, posts and comments can be deleted seamlessly and any warnings would go to the profiles of the offenders, a mod is usually only active when they feel like posting something.
Voidless has been quite visible the last coupla days, Gantic usually sticks around answering questions in the Newcomer's section.
Noname/Nemo can probably be found in video games or the WEPR.

sk8ertrevor99
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I think that this thread will help a lot because some people think that becoming a moderator is as easy as a piece of pie if they come onto the site a lot. That is why i think that only a few moderators should be chosen of the two million users on the site every so often.

ellock
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ellock
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I have a question about admins... I think they are paid member so does that mean you are REQUIRED to be over 18, whereas a moderator is just USUALLY over 18?

GhostOfMatrix
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GhostOfMatrix
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Administrators work at Armor Games, so yes.

Francezu82
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Francezu82
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I want to become a member premium and i dont know how to pay the game because i dont have paypall account or credit card paypall,can i have other opcione to pay the game?i do thank you in advance

omarzocco
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omarzocco
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How do moderators ban like does some button pop up on everyone profile he or she sees that says ban. Could they ban them selves

Freakenstein
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Freakenstein
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Each moderator has their own ban weapon to choose from once they have ascended. They simply choose an offending member and swing. The number of days dictates the power of said swing. The pain varies. A ban fish causes less and fewer headaches than a ban hammer for instance. Voidy's ban hurts the most, since he's a dragon. There have been accidental bans before, such as Nemo tripping and causing his ban weapon to drop on his big toe. This is why new moderators undergo training to not have such silly and humiliating accidents occur. Frank slept during his studies, and has remedied such by carving a groove in the shape of a big toe on his ban hammer.

Pazx
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We have to be thankful Klaus will never be mod, because his method of banning would end up as some creepy BDSM.

*shudder*

Maverick4
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We have to be thankful Klaus will never be mod, because his method of banning would end up as some creepy BDSM.


He was a leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetle creepy. Like pedobear in human form. Didnt help that his armatar was a bear...

Everything is so clear now...
murasaki9
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Blacksmith

Am I correct in assuming that it is against protocol to ask if one can become a Mod?

Ernie15
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Am I correct in assuming that it is against protocol to ask if one can become a Mod?


Yes. Although I didn't find anything specifically about that after skimming over the OP a few times, it's a generally accepted rule that you will not me modded if you ask for it.
Snowflake4579
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I am only 13 but if I am meeting all the requirements except for age will I be a candidate for becoming a moderator, or will I have to wit until my 18th birthday?

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