Obviously my screen name says what I believe but I encourage all ( Buddhist, Atheist, Christians, Taoist, Muslims, etc) to give me a good clear cut answer on if god really does exist. I would sincerely love to know what all of you think. That does not mean I won't argue with your idea or belief.
Also, to add what I was saying about the computer thing, exceptional claims require exceptional evidence. Claiming that I have a quarter in my pocket is not on the same footing as claiming that a supernatural being exists and cannot be demonstrated to anybody in the modern age, but demands faith and adherence to a moral code of his own contruction, and threatens us with eternal torment if we refuse to believe. That claim cannot be taken intellectually and honestly without a bigger reason than faith.
Yes, this again goes back to being able to draw upon past experiences and knowledge. We know that quarters exist and are common things people put in there pocket. So with that knowledge and past experience of dealing with quarters we can reasonable assume such a claim is likely to be true without having to go further into it. If you don't have that then it would be reasonable to doubt such a claim.
Well I dont believe God is real I KNOW God is real lol. You see the proof is simple a woman with cancer was healed instantaneously by God (without any type of medical treatment at all). That woman is m grandma and for 4 years now she has never been better God seriously is real!
Well I dont believe God is real I KNOW God is real lol. You see the proof is simple a woman with cancer was healed instantaneously by God (without any type of medical treatment at all). That woman is m grandma and for 4 years now she has never been better God seriously is real!
I can't tell if this is sarcasticc or not, because there are people who would say this. I'll treat this like a serious post.
While I'm glad that you only believe because you think you know God is real, your claim to evidence isn't evidence. We need to ask "How did this happen? Did a god perform this miracle? Was it a natural event? Do we have an explanation? Could a non-supernatural explanation exist?" If we can answer those questions, and we have some special and specific reason to believe it was a god, then the claim gains some weight. But you don't have proof of god. You have a proof of a woman's cancer getting healed. That's it.
Ok I see what you mean. lets answer those question then. for the first one of how did it happen? well there's no real way of saying how did it happen because obviously we didn't monitor it 24/7 but I can tell you what was there before they ever ministered to her,in the mamograms (hope i spelled that right) it showed the tumor in her right breast and it was rather large (don't remember the exact stage) when the doctor saw that he set up the date for the operation so they could take it out before it got any bigger. So we went to this church (which is the one i still attend today) and they were having a healing and miracle crusade (which they do almost monthly) and they prayed for her right there and that was it. come the day of the operation about a few days later they did another mamogram before the operation so they could see where the tumor was but the tumor was gone they couldnt find it anywhere.The doctors didnt know what to say because they had felt the tumor before and everything and then it was gone. So idk about you but thats a miracle in my book.
Well I dont believe God is real I KNOW God is real lol. You see the proof is simple a woman with cancer was healed instantaneously by God (without any type of medical treatment at all). That woman is m grandma and for 4 years now she has never been better God seriously is real!
That's your proof? Really? It's not as if me can see this in animals too... And it's not as if there are thousands of childrens dying every day, but I'm sure that one cancer patient is more important...
But thats the thing Grim it's not just one cancer patient things like that happen all over the world every day to different people.
Yep that's the thing because the human body can sometimes fight cancer NATURALLY. Kids die. That happens all over the world too, especially in Africa. Why are cancer patients so special? But it's not even all cancer patients who get safed, why are some people special? Why does God help them while he lets other people die?
Well I've never heard of the body fighting cancer Naturally.
*facepalm*
And honestly I don't know why God lets other people die like that.
My conclusion? There is no god, things simply happen, therefore there is no absolute evil or good. It is entirely subjective and up to us to decide. You cannot claim an all loving and all powerful god and have there be suffering in the world.
One group of 109,784 women was followed from 1992 to 1997. Mammography screening in Norway was initiated in 1996. In 1996 and 1997, all were offered mammograms, and nearly every woman accepted.
The second group of 119,472 women was followed from 1996 to 2001. All were offered regular mammograms, and nearly all accepted.
It might be expected that the two groups would have roughly the same number of breast cancers, either detected at the end or found along the way. Instead, the researchers report, the women who had regular routine screenings had 22 percent more cancers. For every 100,000 women who were screened regularly, 1,909 were diagnosed with invasive breast cancer over six years, compared with 1,564 women who did not have regular screening.
There are other explanations, but researchers say that they are less likely than the conclusion that the tumors disappeared.
Ok I see what you mean. lets answer those question then. for the first one of how did it happen? well there's no real way of saying how did it happen because obviously we didn't monitor it 24/7 but I can tell you what was there before they ever ministered to her,in the mamograms (hope i spelled that right) it showed the tumor in her right breast and it was rather large (don't remember the exact stage) when the doctor saw that he set up the date for the operation so they could take it out before it got any bigger. So we went to this church (which is the one i still attend today) and they were having a healing and miracle crusade (which they do almost monthly) and they prayed for her right there and that was it. come the day of the operation about a few days later they did another mamogram before the operation so they could see where the tumor was but the tumor was gone they couldnt find it anywhere.The doctors didnt know what to say because they had felt the tumor before and everything and then it was gone. So idk about you but thats a miracle in my book.
I think you're missing the main point I was making. There's a difference between "The only possible way this could have happened is God" (a claim asserting that you have eliminated all other things that could ever explain this phenomenon) and "The only thing I can think of that would cause this is God" (a claim that because we can't think of anything better, we must accept it as an act of God). The same was said for lightning when we didn't know what caused that. It was Zeus. Now we have a more rational explanation.
So, basically when a person is healed of something that would kill them that can be counted as proof that God exists. So, what do you call it when somebody drops dead for no reason? What do you call it when people pray for someone and they don't receive God's blessing? Are they unworthy in comparison to your grandmother? A lack of a medical explanation is not an indication that a supernatural explanation becomes more plausible.
My last question "Could a supernatural explanation exist?" you should answer yes. You cannot claim absolute knowledge that no other explanation exists. The honest answer to your grandmother's situation is "I don't know how it happened", not "I can't think of anything better so I'm gonna say God".
So, basically when a person is healed of something that would kill them that can be counted as proof that God exists. So, what do you call it when somebody drops dead for no reason? What do you call it when people pray for someone and they don't receive God's blessing? Are they unworthy in comparison to your grandmother? A lack of a medical explanation is not an indication that a supernatural explanation becomes more plausible.
Keep in mind that they visited a Church before she got scanned for the tumor the second time, which does lend more credibility to his reason for belief.
My conclusion? There is no god, things simply happen, therefore there is no absolute evil or good. It is entirely subjective and up to us to decide. You cannot claim an all loving and all powerful god and have there be suffering in the world.
Actually, if God has no control over the actions of humans, than you can claim an all loving and all powerful God. Many of the negative things people blame God for are a result of human violence or stupidity, not something supernatural.
Keep in mind that they visited a Church before she got scanned for the tumor the second time, which does lend more credibility to his reason for belief.
Not really. How many people do you think go to a church or place of worship upon finding that they quite possibly have a potentially fatal disease? I bet the majority of them do. How many of them miraculously heal? Not many.
