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elshobokshy
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I want everybody's opinion about the ongoing events in the Arab World.
I mean the ongoing revolutions.

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Jefferysinspiration
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If you mean me then of course!!


Yeah, what were your experiences?
Kyouzou
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Was there really as much violence as they showed, because here it looked like the beginning of a war zone?

elshobokshy
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Was there really as much violence as they showed, because here it looked like the beginning of a war zone?

It was even worse than what you saw..
Jefferysinspiration
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It was even worse than what you saw..


In what way? The news made it look brutal.
Kyouzou
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I think it was on CNN, one reporter was actually attacked by the protesters.

Jefferysinspiration
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I think it was on CNN, one reporter was actually attacked by the protesters


Yeah i'd heard about that too, so i looked up to share ;o, you can read it here
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Violent does begin to cover that does it, those people were crazy, although I don't quite understand what mind set makes one think that attacking a foreign reporter or three in this case is going to further their cause.

Jefferysinspiration
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Violent does begin to cover that does it, those people were crazy, although I don't quite understand what mind set makes one think that attacking a foreign reporter or three in this case is going to further their cause


Well the problem with incidents like this is, reporters tend to make the situation a public affair, they show the extent the protesters are going to, but in a way are usually on their side - so when they act out like that, it ruins the agenda the publicity could have achieved.
elshobokshy
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In what way? The news made it look brutal.

Well it WAS brutal, the police were killing us like if we were flies. We were lucky that the army wasn't supporting Mubarak (at least we think so), so the army kinds helped us in the end But they are acting weird..

I think it was on CNN, one reporter was actually attacked by the protesters.

Violent does begin to cover that does it, those people were crazy, although I don't quite understand what mind set makes one think that attacking a foreign reporter or three in this case is going to further their cause.

The government got criminals out of jail and put them within the protesters so they can show the world that our revolution is 'violent' like what you said.. Please don't believe everything you hear. We (as civilians) didn't hurt ANYONE, it was a peaceful revolution, we walked in the streets and so on, we didn't use any guns, only rocks and so on against the POLICE.
I can't really explain everything cuz it's hard saying it in English But I hope you got my point.
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For some credits, Mubarak actually left office without causing civil war like Libya. There was no way all his supporters were paid cops... Not saying he was nice and all but just saying. I think before he left he made the Military promise to keep him safe or something like that, sounds likely to me.

Elsho, i heard the the protests people kept chanting stuff like "Mubarak the Jew" and "go back to tel aviv", you hear anything like that?

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The government got criminals out of jail and put them within the protesters so they can show the world that our revolution is 'violent' like what you said.. Please don't believe everything you hear. We (as civilians) didn't hurt ANYONE, it was a peaceful revolution, we walked in the streets and so on, we didn't use any guns, only rocks and so on against the POLICE.


What?! That's so corrupt and unjust - taking criminals out to make the protesters look wrong.
elshobokshy
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For some credits, Mubarak actually left office without causing civil war like Libya. There was no way all his supporters were paid cops.

Believe me, they ARE. When the protesters captured some of them they had the police badges in their pocket.

I think before he left he made the Military promise to keep him safe or something like that, sounds likely to me.

If that's it screw the army, we will go to him and kill him ourselves in a public place so everyone can see!

Elsho, i heard the the protests people kept chanting stuff like "Mubarak the Jew" and "go back to tel aviv", you hear anything like that?

Erm no that didn't happen, at least nothing I heard of. It may be just rumors

What?! That's so corrupt and unjust - taking criminals out to make the protesters look wrong.

Tell me about it!!
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Erm no that didn't happen, at least nothing I heard of. It may be just rumors

Can't be just rummer because thousands were chanting it in large broadcasted protests.

For Mubarak, what I meant is that I think the only reason he left office without civil war like Gaddafi was because the Army promised to protect him. It just doesn't make too much sense for a guy like him to leave office without protection. If this is the case then I don't think actually killing Mubarak would do too much good. I mean one of the worst thing that can happen to a leader is to be known as a liar. Who would make connections to Egypt if everyone would think Egypt's leaders will just lie and will never stand up to their promises?
elshobokshy
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For Mubarak, what I meant is that I think the only reason he left office without civil war like Gaddafi was because the Army promised to protect him. It just doesn't make too much sense for a guy like him to leave office without protection. If this is the case then I don't think actually killing Mubarak would do too much good. I mean one of the worst thing that can happen to a leader is to be known as a liar. Who would make connections to Egypt if everyone would think Egypt's leaders will just lie and will never stand up to their promises?

You might be right, he might have left quickly cuz the army said they would protect him, anyways he's on the dead list
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Do you think you today are as rational as an 11th century Spanish peasant?


I might be? Rationality is the thought of being agreeable to reason. Not all people there are filled with this 'deep hatred', their minds could be clear enough, and though they may have more of a radical religion, they aren't all just a swarming band of evil. Knowledge does not give a man intellect.

Imams can (and are) send people to suicide attacks, armed resistance, just giving them money, etc.


There are some evil Imams but I haven't seen any news/stuff of them having some immense control to fuel the conflict, my guess is most Imams that are like this are already part of the Taliban.

The Zionism argument is possible, though -- Jews travelling to Israel uses fossil fuels, along with industrializing the country. <- Just a joke

This is what I tried to say, the small but active radical minority can decide the action of the passive majority.


Maybe. I don't think it would work that way in Western countries. People in places like France aren't poor farmers, and they can all vote and seek help from the government. So I feel that even if there were some Iran-connected extremists in France, I think there would be many people who wouldn't be pulled into the conflict. Yet, what you say is possible, too, so we can't really be sure.

***** K back to topic

In terms of activities -- Yemen's uprising died down in March. The last thing to happen was military tanks coming in to keep the peace + the ambassador to Syria stepping down in favor of the demanded resignation.

As for Egypt -- Isn't the question a little late? Mubarak is gone, out of Cairo, the military is in control -- the only question is what is going to happen next. I'm going to guess that A) Someone in the military's an evil monster and is going to cause problems or B) Something good might happen.

I don't honestly know much about Syria -- Everytime I hear something about it it just sounds more like crap than information -- something like 'Ppl dying + bad govt + protests + but we have no idea what is going on'
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