I'm aware of scientists who have stated that god is not necessary, but I'm not aware of any scientific theory specifically stating this.
Close enough. The creation stories (And many other stories) are incorrect and incompatible with modern science, as well as the deities interfering in any practical way. Basically it only leaves a large enough gap to claim that a deity created the big bang than sat back and watched, in which case it wouldn't matter anyway.
So...You believe in a god, but you haven't found out which stories you like best?
Sounds about right
Except everything I mentioned where scientific theories. The scientific theories state that there is no god, especially not one that has been created by the human imagination.
Scientific theories are change every 50 years, 1000 years ago it was a fact that the world was flat, 500 years ago it was a fact that the universe was 50 miles long, and now it's a fact that the earth is circular and that space is infinite right? So how long will this scientific theory last?
Or are you going "Well I am not crazy thinking that I am right and everyone else is wrong because there are a few million other people who believe the same thing! Not that I am arrogant or anything, like I would be if I was the only one who believed!". I don't see how number effects truth.
I'm not doing or thinking that
Okay, what supporting evidence do you have for this belief?
I just find it to crazy that the world, and galaxy was created by nothingness which got all constipated and blew up everywhere (The Big Bang Theory). I think there has to be a creator to have made all this. But that leaves me with the same conundrum. Who created the creator. Nothing could have been here forever or created itself
And religious "facts" are changed from person to person. With in the same church even.
1000 years ago it was a fact that the world was flat,
LOLWUT? The people who thought so where religiously motivated, but hell the ancient Greeks knew it was round. They saw ships dipping of in the distance and said "Hey, that might be round!". If I remember correctly, Aristotle? even calculated the circumference of he earth and was almost correct.
500 years ago it was a fact that the universe was 50 miles long,
Actually, by then we probably had a decent enough understanding of the planets to know something to the effect of "SPACE BIG!". The people who thought it was small where probably a minority, I will have to fact check this.
I'm not doing or thinking that
So if one guy says that he is right and everyone else is wrong, he is an arrogant person, but if a million people who say they are right and everyone else is wrong, they are somehow legitimized? That is what it sounds like you are saying.
I just find it to crazy that the world, and galaxy was created by nothingness which got all constipated and blew up everywhere (The Big Bang Theory).
...But you don't find it insane that a humanoid being created himself and then the universe using magical powers, then paying special attention to the earth in many stories while still screwing it up to the point we need advanced science to live on a small portion of it?
I think there has to be a creator to have made all this.
Why do you think that? If that is the case, what made the "creator"?
But that leaves me with the same conundrum.
Well that answers that question.
Nothing could have been here forever or created itself
And why not? Matter can not be created or destroyed, so why think that it can be created?
LOLWUT? The people who thought so where religiously motivated, but hell the ancient Greeks knew it was round. They saw ships dipping of in the distance and said "Hey, that might be round!". If I remember correctly, Aristotle? even calculated the circumference of he earth and was almost correct.
I just find it to crazy that the world, and galaxy was created by nothingness which got all constipated and blew up everywhere (The Big Bang Theory).
That's not what the theory states. A singularity (the universe was basically very hot and dense) and that expanded rapidly. As for the creation from nothing this is technically incorrect consider true nothing doesn't exists. As for all of this, once we have the universe we have plenty of explanations for the various origins of what we observe.
But that leaves me with the same conundrum. Who created the creator. Nothing could have been here forever or created itself
Matter/energy can't be created or destroyed just change states, so it could exist forever. We are also dealing with states where our concept of time doesn't apply.
I just find it to crazy that the world, and galaxy was created by nothingness which got all constipated and blew up everywhere (The Big Bang Theory).
I just find it crazy that people with little understanding of scientific theories chose to substitute their own assumptions in place of said theory while giving it the same name, then they use their own (purposely) outrageous, falsely labeled, assumption to justify their own belief.
well, since i dont know any of you, i guess its safe to tell you. I am a jew. it sometimes is hard because there are a lot of requirements to this religion between studing and stuff, but it is sometimes also fun...
well, since i dont know any of you, i guess its safe to tell you. I am a jew. it sometimes is hard because there are a lot of requirements to this religion between studing and stuff, but it is sometimes also fun...
So you keep it a secret for some reason?
why can't you guys just agree on something, it just might help the world from dying .
its up to you in where we'll start.
I don't see how agreeing would keep an object that was never alive from becoming dead. I don't see any reason to agree with people who bring no facts or evidence into the argument, so if you really want to agree just agree with us.
Yes we have, at least depending on the claim. You just keep changing where he is supposed to be. First you said "He is in the sky". We can now fly, and he is not there. Apparently, he was supposed to just be sitting on the clouds. The Tower of Babel seems to suggest so. But no, then he was "Just a bit further" in the sky. We can see a ton in the Hubble, but no god. Now apparently he is sitting outside of reality.
Then we have the burden of proof, it isn't our job to "rove something doesn't exist", it is your job to prove that it exists. Or if this isn't the case, could you kindly disprove unicorns for me?
And as I said, science has stated that many of the important mythologies of all holy books are false, especially the creation of the universe, only leaving a big enough gap for the god to open the automatic door of the big bang and then do nothing, which is a god you don't really need to care about anyway.
The person making the claim has the burden of proof.
...Yes...So where is your proof? Your making the claim that there is a god. Its your job to prove that. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
