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destruction101
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The oil resources around the world are fastly depleting. The sources of oil that are there are very hard to get and refine. So should we continue to use oil as our main resource or should we find alternative energy.

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314d1
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No. The US should NOT rely on oil as a main resource, nor other countries. The Wind-generated electricity would do the trick and is way cheaper. And better: it never ends!


How exactly are you going to use that on cars? And wouldn't that be far more expensive? Oil is much better, cheaper, and easier to store.
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And if there isn't any wind in part of the Kansas-sized wind farm, thousands, if not millions of Americans will be without power until the wind picks back up.


The energy created gets stored in huge "batteries" so if the wind dies there will still be electricity.
Dregus2
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That many windmills? I think that would be a very expensive inconvenience.


Yes, it is a fact that energy created from fossil fuels are the cheapest.
Roger721
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Yeah. I was wrong when I mentioned that eolic energy was cheaper... they are expensiver.

We would have to cover an area the size of Kansas in windmills to power the entire United States. And if there isn't any wind in part of the Kansas-sized wind farm, thousands, if not millions of Americans will be without power until the wind picks back up.


Well... if the windmills were well distributed, I think they would occupy less space than Kansas.

Another thing are the Nuclear Powerstations. They could be replaced by windmills or solar panels (Solar energy is cheaper than wind energy, at least)
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Yes, it is a fact that energy created from fossil fuels are the cheapest


is that a reason to kill the earth? because it's cheaper.
Roger721
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I meant that we would have to have enough windmills to cover Kansas, not that they need to be in the same space.


Yeah, I know. But well distributing would make it fit better, I guess. How much Nuclear Powerplants do US have? Which state it covers? Idaho?

Humans cause next to no pollution, even in our industrialized state.


What makes you say that? In a town in China people can't see the sun because of coal smoke... that's a lot of pollution for me...
partydevil
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Hu

mans cause next to no pollution, even in our industrialized state.

hahaha. humans are 1 of the biggest reason for pollution, the hole in the ozon layer and global warming. xD especialy usa, europe and china.
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The oil reserves are not going to run out in our lifetime. Thats for sure. We should definitely look for alternate fuel sources, but not totally stop using oil as a energy source considering that it is the most efficient, easily accessible source of energy.

Roger721
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The oil reserves are not going to run out in our lifetime. Thats for sure. We should definitely look for alternate fuel sources, but not totally stop using oil as a energy source considering that it is the most efficient, easily accessible source of energy.


Well, maybe. But then what are we going to leave for the future generations? A world teared apart by pollution?
partydevil
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Well, maybe. But then what are we going to leave for the future generations? A world teared apart by pollution?


future generations will look back at our generation and asking themself how we could be so stupid to do this to the earth.
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future generations will look back at our generation and asking themself how we could be so stupid to do this to the earth.

Totally. I can even imagine:

"Poor grandpa... so nice but so stupidly dumb..."

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We're always smarter afterwards than before. And yes, it may be dumb, but don't forget it's part of the time spirit; plus, lobbyists are doing their share in sticking with fossil fuel. So don't be hatin' on the regular people
I have to agree partly with 27153, partly with Roger721; we have to switch, but we cannot rush headlong into experimental techniques and inchoate procedures. So far a regular car pollutes no more, ultimately, than an electric car, if less even. And biofuel out of corn is the biggest stupidity ever thought of. We need time to improve on sustainable, ecologic and economic ressources.

Roger721
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I have to agree partly with 27153, partly with Roger721; we have to switch, but we cannot rush headlong into experimental techniques and inchoate procedures.


Uhm... that is a fact. No permanent petroleum using, but not jump to the conclusion in biofuels that may even polute more than oil itself.

So far a regular car pollutes no more, ultimately, than an electric car, if less even


What make you say that? Sure thing that the energy may come from less-than-ecological sources, but, at least, electric cars don't dump lead particles and carbon monoxide in the atmosphere (citing gasoline smoke from cars.).

And biofuel out of corn is the biggest stupidity ever thought of. We need time to improve on sustainable, ecologic and economic ressources.


What? Why biofuel can't be made of corn? Is ecological! No lead or carbon monoxide in the air, at least.

And there is no economic biofuel so far. Corn is being grown by farms as we are writing this. If it were too expensive, no one would be growing it.

And one of the only chances that the corn production would stop is the pollution caused by fossil fuels!
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We could go back to steam power like they used back in the 1800s. We could use solar power. We could use wind. We could use a combination of all these. There's a bicycle that can go 40mph (it's got a motor, but it's pedal-powered); the only problem is that bike costs $40,000. Once the cost of new technology goes down, oil will be outdated/useless. Unfortunately, OPEC will hate it when that happens. Tensions with the Middle East are too high to cut off our oil buying right now or tap into our oil fully; they'd retaliate. In 20 years, maybe.

Roger721
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]We could go back to steam power like they used back in the 1800s.


Then we would be extinguishing something else: Coal

We could go back to steam power like they used back in the 1800s. We could use solar power. We could use wind. We could use a combination of all these.


I can even imagine: A world where you can take a deep breath on movimented cities (like Chicago or NY [no mean to offense anyone with this]) and don't die from lung cancer.

There's a bicycle that can go 40mph (it's got a motor, but it's pedal-powered); the only problem is that bike costs $40,000. Once the cost of new technology goes down, oil will be outdated/useless.


Nice point. I agree. Eco-friendly doesn't mean money friendly. At least by now.

Unfortunately, OPEC will hate it when that happens. Tensions with the Middle East are too high to cut off our oil buying right now or tap into our oil fully; they'd retaliate. In 20 years, maybe.


Another good point. I would dislike to die from a terrorist attack or being shot on a World War Three because of green energy.

Uhm... maybe it would be good to them to install both solar and eolic technologies in the Sahara! Hot during day, windy during night!
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