Your Friendly Neighborhood Satanist is back for a 3rd round to try and get you people to understand what worshiping Satan is all about.
I also hope to see if any other Satanists are roaming the forums of ArmorGames. >B^)
So, the story behind my Satanism? Eh, might as well, considering the other guy already gave us his story about Atheism to Christianity, might as well catalog the Protestant to Satanism transition of the ChillzMaster.
It was a cold night in the summer of 2010 and I was just surfing the web when I looked on wikipedia about the anniversary of the Church of Satan. Eyebrow raised, I investigated the Church. What I came across were many of the beliefs that I personally believed that the Church also based its laws about. Many days later, I read about such things as the Harrowing of Hell, and Paradise Lost.
I found Satan to be an interesting character, a fallen hero who wanted all to be happy. I smiled and pledged my allegiance to Him. Since then, my friends have accepted my belief, and my recent discovery of genius knowledge has them wondering if Satanacy is the right path.
I will admit you do a good job of putting a friendly face on Satanism. Really with other Satanists I've run into the experience has been positive.
I found Satan to be an interesting character, a fallen hero who wanted all to be happy. I smiled and pledged my allegiance to Him. Since then, my friends have accepted my belief, and my recent discovery of genius knowledge has them wondering if Satanacy is the right path.
In a more positive light or not I still have to wonder how you come to the conclusion this is real? I mean it seems just as made up as anything else.
In a more positive light or not I still have to wonder how you come to the conclusion this is real? I mean it seems just as made up as anything else.
Well, I always kinda figured there was something out there, and I understand your atheism, good mage, but it's just sticking to me. The fact that no matter what I do, I will be happy after death? That's something that really let's ya smile and just enjoy life, not caring what goes wrong.
And onto the texts I've read.
Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible, The Bible, and in general just a bunch of pages on Wikipedia about Satanism and the faults of Christians over the years.
Explain which facet of "Satanism" you adhere to. Cite sources and passages for your arguments. ..and I mean quote them here.
Milton's story contains two arcs: one of Satan (Lucifer) and another of Adam and Eve. It begins after Satan and the other rebel angels have been defeated and banished to Hell, or as it is also called in the poem, Tartarus. In Pandæmonium, Satan employs his rhetorical skill to organize his followers; he is aided by his lieutenants Mammon and Beëlzebub. Belial and Moloch are also present. At the end of the debate, Satan volunteers himself to poison the newly created Earth and God's new and most favored creation, Mankind. He braves the dangers of the Abyss alone in a manner reminiscent of Odysseus or Aeneas. After arduously traversing the Chaos outside Hell, he enters God's new material World, and later the Garden of Eden.
according to the wiki of Paradise Lost Satan is still portrayed by Milton as having been the "oisoner" of our existence. You herald someone who is the supposed reason we're in the state we're in as a hero?
Sounds more like a child who had something taken from him who is now hell bent on making sure that if he can't have whatever it was then no1 can have it. Sounds like a hero to me.... I mean if you hold to that ideology.
You might just have something with that serving your carnal pleasures bit. I mean, I wonder if Miss Casey Anthony was also a Satanist. IFF what has been said in the monster that is the media is true then it sounds like she was servicing all kinds of carnal desires during that 30+ day long time span in which her daughter was missing. She was having so much fun she didn't even have time to report her daughter missing. Now that's gotta be a helluva-lot of fun. We should all be having so much fun that we don't care about anything else. It's the best way to be. If she wasn't a satanist, then she sure as crap needs to convert. You need high profile people like that in your faith to spread the word... especially people who fit the bill so well.
This could be me shouting out my beard again (and this has happened before and caused people in the tavern to yell at me), but I don't think any dogma of Satanism means to "give into your passions and abandon all responsibility". Obviously, you cannot weigh an entire religion on one person and use that example as ammo for rebuttal. And of course, you cannot fight religion with religion.
i find it weird that your definition of satanism isnt even satanism.... REAL satanists dont believe in any sort of afterlife. in fact, they dont believe in satan at all nore do they worship him. i dont care what religion you are, im just telling you that whatever you are, its not satanism
@Frank... I was going more for the "serving yourself is the greatest good you can do" bit. I took it to the most extreme interpretation I could come up with. If someone else's problems are of no concern to yourself (IFF someone doesn't care about the welfare of their child) and you believe in servicing your own desires, then partying instead of caring for someone else's well-being would maybe be in your own perceived best interest. ...and what's in your best interest is what you pursue in that frame of mind. I'm trying to term it in absolutes by patterning it after how people justify the WBBC's picketing of soldiers' funerals with Free Speech. Free speech w/o caring how someone else is affected by it... ie. the fallen's family. Servicing carnal desires w/o caring how someone else is affected by it... ie. Caylee's well being.
If you adhere to responsibility when it isn't what you want to do, then you aren't being very "satanic"... now are you?
Palin's "Rewind and Play" technique. Again, you cannot base the religion's standards on one person's agendas (especially since she's not a confirmed Satanist I don't think), nor as the extreme end of the spectrum, hence why we do not base Christianity over Jehovah's Witnesses or the hooligans at the Westboro Baptist Church. The argument also doesn't hold water when you assume Satanists will forfeit every ounce of responsibility, which is of course not true. Very ugly things can surface in this thread if we judged relations by how the extremes behave. This holds true for, say, Fundamentalists. "If you don't adhere to the entirety of the Bible's dogma, then you aren't being very Christian, now are you?" I could easily play it safe with this discussion playing it like this.
If I did, I didn't mean to imply that she was a satanist. I meant to attempt at a correlation between one ideal and another.... and to show that pursuit of carnal desires isn't always the right thing to do. >_< I just saw it on the tv and was agitated at that and saw this and got carried away.
I found this interesting. I'm sure you all can poke holes in Rebecca's argument...but I think she said what I didn't have the ability or knowledge to say.
Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible, The Bible, and in general just a bunch of pages on Wikipedia about Satanism and the faults of Christians over the years.
Interesting you went with a theistic version of Satanism though influenced by an atheistic variant.
i find it weird that your definition of satanism isnt even satanism.... REAL satanists dont believe in any sort of afterlife. in fact, they dont believe in satan at all nore do they worship him. i dont care what religion you are, im just telling you that whatever you are, its not satanism
You can check it out on the wiki page for yourself but there are theistic versions.
Okay figuring Satan as a real dude, pretty much the same question I would ask about God. Why doesn't he just show up in the flesh? With God the usual lame excuse is "free will", but I get the impression from what you've said around the board doing this personal showing fro all to see would be in Satan's best interest. It would give him a chance to prove he's real and show everyone what the real deal is.
no. not even close. goth is a genre of music that developed in the 80's. bands like the cure sort of made it into a real culture. but being gothic has nothing to do with religion
