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ninjajr
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What is your view on the wars in the middle east? Are you for them or against them and why?

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EnterOrion
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If they want to kill each other, let them. No point in making them a ticking time bomb.

Peace has never lasted in the region. It's not exactly well known for being a peaceful place. Too much political clash, especially with Israel.

So, in my view, why stop what you can't?

dair5
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I'm against them. I don't think I can stop them but I do think they're terrible and that there's no good reason for the war.

Armed_Blade
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I'm against them. All of the Arab/Muslim countries don't even unite that well alone, never mind them getting along with America/Israel.
We'll always have enemies/anti-Americas. That doesn't mean we have to send troops everywhere.

MindReaver
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That doesn't mean we have to send troops everywhere.


A valid point. So there are lives being lost in the Middle East. Sure, its sad, it shouldn't be happening, but what does it have to do with North America? By us sending troops over, it only worsens the bloodshed. Its not going to make things better.
Blkasp
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By us sending troops over, it only worsens the bloodshed. Its not going to make things better.


In the hope of ending the war quickly.

The US is expected to fulfill the role of World baby sitter aka: Whenever there is a problem, countries secretly expect the US to go over and sort it out, even though the US gets hardly, if any recognition for what they are doing.
MindReaver
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In the hope of ending the war quickly.


When does that ever happen?

The US is expected to fulfill the role of World baby sitter aka: Whenever there is a problem, countries secretly expect the US to go over and sort it out, even though the US gets hardly, if any recognition for what they are doing.


I wouldn't be so quick to say that. The world does not expect the States to send troops to all those Middle East countries (or at least, it didn't). Most of the countries the troops are landing in are outraged by the arrival of outsiders in their affairs, which only feeds anger.
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The US is expected to fulfill the role of World baby sitter aka: Whenever there is a problem, countries secretly expect the US to go over and sort it out,


WTF just WTF...
keep your fat american ***** home will ya. we don't expect the usa to sort it out. let them sort it out by themself. as you said you only make it worse. 1st try to get your own country on the line again. lower your crime rates and do something about the almost daily gun fights at the mexican border. get your debt in order. go do that and let the rest of the handle their own problems.
partydevil
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my bad you didn't say it gets worse. but still it's not like your doing a great job

zakyman
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WTF just WTF...
keep your fat american ***** home will ya. we don't expect the usa to sort it out. let them sort it out by themself. as you said you only make it worse. 1st try to get your own country on the line again. lower your crime rates and do something about the almost daily gun fights at the mexican border. get your debt in order. go do that and let the rest of the handle their own problems.


Wow, so much anger! Anyways, tell the politicians in Washington to do that, not we on the game sight forum.
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WTF just WTF...
keep your fat american ***** home will ya. we don't expect the usa to sort it out. let them sort it out by themself. as you said you only make it worse. 1st try to get your own country on the line again. lower your crime rates and do something about the almost daily gun fights at the mexican border. get your debt in order. go do that and let the rest of the handle their own problems.

Ah, far-left anti-Americanism. I love it...

back to topic: I'm not sure. There are pro and cons. Saddam was a genocidal maniac, the Talibans and Al Qaida are crazy lunatics who kill for their religion. On the other side people don't seem to want the USA's help.
partydevil
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far-left anti-Americanism

far left - no
anti american - yes.
Jefferysinspiration
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WTF just WTF...
keep your fat american ***** home will ya. we don't expect the usa to sort it out. let them sort it out by themself. as you said you only make it worse. 1st try to get your own country on the line again. lower your crime rates and do something about the almost daily gun fights at the mexican border. get your debt in order. go do that and let the rest of the handle their own problems.


far left - no
anti american - yes.


My problem with debates like this, is like many other in this sub-section.

Why can't people debate in reference to the people involved in the situation. For instance: The American governments role in deploying troops, the troops who do not stick to procedure and kill innocent civilian etc.

Americans are not to blame for this - a select number of individuals and the large number of people taking orders are.

As for if i'm for or against war. Always against.
I understand America wanted to help. & i agree with party in a less ignorant way that they don't do a very good job at it the majority of the time, however i do know that it has spiraled out of control and sadly has become "One of those things."
I guess my level of care decreased after Obama failed to keep his "Send troops home within one year" when he got elected.
sprooschicken
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You shouldn't be so quick to dismiss partydevil, yes he was unnecessarily offensive, but the point he was making is valid, America should sort itself out before trying to police the world

Jefferysinspiration
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America should sort itself out before trying to police the world


America does not try to police the world, the American government does. The american government in terms of statistics in the population does not amount to a lot of people.
That was my previous point.
sprooschicken
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America does not try to police the world, the American government does. The american government in terms of statistics in the population does not amount to a lot of people.
That was my previous point.


Well yes obviously i didn't mean that the entire population of America subscribed to the idea that its Americas duty/right to police the world, its simply easier to refer to it as America, I'll say the American government in future if it makes you happy.
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