ForumsWEPRSo how 'bout that Marijuana? Do you think it should be legal?

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username4396
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I certainly do. It very rarely causes lung cancer but that's pretty much the only downside.

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hojoko
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Unless everyone starts robbing the stores that sells the weed, crime rate can only go down.


But why would they do that when they could buy it? It's not like liquor stores are regularly robbed for the alcohol.
skater_kid_who_pwns
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But why would they do that when they could buy it? It's not like liquor stores are regularly robbed for the alcohol.


I mean, sure that happens, but not very often at all. Watch the news. Let me know if you guys hear anything about that.

(not targeting you hojoko, I'm agreeing with you....sounded like i was gonna being rude to you, I dunno)
Turtelman1234
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But why would they do that when they could buy it? It's not like liquor stores are regularly robbed for the alcohol


I said that to explain how that'd be the only way for crime to go higher. And since you won't have literally everyone robbing the stores (I mean honestly, when have you ever heard of a toddler robbing a store at gunpoint?), crime going higher more than likely won't happen.
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Why is this even a debate? There is no real argument against it, but personal beliefs, which are bs to begin with.


Did you happen to watch this video before posting?
Marijuana Debate?
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No, marajuana should not be legal, it does not only cause lung cancer, it also causes schizophrenia, which is a psycologic disorder that someone thinks hes sees something or hears something that is usually telling them somthing demonic, or telling them to commit suicide, and causes extreme depression.

Marajuana is something that should not be messed with, especially with kids.

EmperorPalpatine
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No, marajuana should not be legal, it does not only cause lung cancer

False.(link)

it also causes schizophrenia


"Some people who abuse drugs show symptoms similar to those of schizophrenia. Therefore, people with schizophrenia may be mistaken for people who are affected by drugs. Most researchers do not believe that substance abuse causes schizophrenia. However, people who have schizophrenia are much more likely to have a substance or alcohol abuse problem than the general population."

link

Marajuana is something that should not be messed with, especially with kids.

Who said anything about giving it to kids? Alochol and tobacco are legal, but there's age limits. I doubt they'd make it totally legal to kids.
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No, marajuana should not be legal, it does not only cause lung cancer

[quote]False.(link)
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you smoke marijuana together whit tobacco. (or you smoke it pure but that tasts bad) so evrything you can get from tobacco smoke you can also get from marijuana smoke. i know people are going to say "but thats no reason to prohibit it" but you can't deny the fact that you can get lung cancer from it. (maybe not the marijuana itself but you can from the paper and tobacco)

and anyone that disagrees 1.have you ever used marijuana and seen how much you can do on it? and 2. it is so more controllable then alcohol


(i live in the netherlands so yes i have used it alot)
1. what do you mean whit "seen how much you can do on it?"
2. marijuana is not more controleable then alcohol. -period.
why? to make alcohol you need a brewery. they are a building on itself. easy to recognise. marijuana can grow EVRYWHERE.

and beside a few pages back when i said it has to be controled. people tryed to blast me away whit the idea that there was no need at all to controle it. because evrything will go fine all by itself --.--'

But why would they do that when they could buy it? It's not like liquor stores are regularly robbed for the alcohol.


alcohol is cheap. evry1 can offort it.
marijuana is not cheap. (and will never be because it needs to grow and can't be made by humans like alcohol) especialy when you gonna tax it heavily it gets even more expensive. people still wanna use it even if they got no money for it.

(i'm not saying crime will get higher i'm sure it lowers )
EmperorPalpatine
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(maybe not the marijuana itself but you can from the paper and tobacco)

The legal products are causing it, but the illegal product isn't. Something's wrong there.

why? to make alcohol you need a brewery.

Then explain moonshine.
MageGrayWolf
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alcohol is cheap. evry1 can offort it.
marijuana is not cheap. (and will never be because it needs to grow and can't be made by humans like alcohol) especialy when you gonna tax it heavily it gets even more expensive. people still wanna use it even if they got no money for it.


The ingredients for alcohol also have to been grown. Marijuana can be grown very easily and quickly so yes it can be produced cheaply.
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you smoke marijuana together whit tobacco. (or you smoke it pure but that tasts bad) so evrything you can get from tobacco smoke you can also get from marijuana smoke. i know people are going to say "but thats no reason to prohibit it" but you can't deny the fact that you can get lung cancer from it. (maybe not the marijuana itself but you can from the paper and tobacco)


Actually, I love the taste of Marijuana, and personally really don't like tobacco. Don't say that I will get lung cancer off of the tobacco i don't use, so marijuana must be illegal. And sure, you can get lung cancer from paper and tobacco, but I smoke out of bongs dude, it filters most of the tar from the smoke, and there is no paper, or tobacco involved.


(i live in the netherlands so yes i have used it alot)
1. what do you mean whit "seen how much you can do on it?"
2. marijuana is not more controleable then alcohol. -period.
why? to make alcohol you need a brewery. they are a building on itself. easy to recognise. marijuana can grow EVRYWHERE.


That's why marijuana is awesome.



alcohol is cheap. evry1 can offort it.
marijuana is not cheap. (and will never be because it needs to grow and can't be made by humans like alcohol) especialy when you gonna tax it heavily it gets even more expensive. people still wanna use it even if they got no money for it.


Marijuana would be much cheaper then alcohol if it where legal. The only reason it is expensive is because people can't grow it in mass quantity. A single Marijuana can produce up to 5 pounds of Marijuana on a good plant, which if it was legal, all plants would be. If you plant a field of 200 plants, that's 1000 pounds of marijuana. 3 grams lasts me a week if I'm smoking a lot. Do you have any idea how many grams are in a pound?

Not to mention, a full scale farm could have WAY MORE than 200 plants.

It would be so much cheaper then alcohol, which needs to be fermented and all that other bull shiit.

It would not be expensive, and taxing it heavily won't work, because once it's legal, I'll just grow my own or buy off my dealer, would you people read what I post? It will keep you from looking stupid, I promise.
partydevil
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3 grams lasts me a week if I'm smoking a lot.


3 grams last me 2 days.
if you got more you automaticly smoke more

a full scale farm could have WAY MORE than 200 plants.


a FULL scale farm got more like 200.000 plants.
a commen loft can have up to 2000 plants already.

would you people read what I post? It will keep you from looking stupid, I promise.


no controle is stupid

Do you have any idea how many grams are in a pound?

i know dutch coffeeshops may have only up to 1 pound of marijuana in the shop at the same time. (if they got more the shop gets closed) and i know for fact that they have to refill this supply about 15 times a day on a busy day. (wich is about evry day ) meaning they sell about 7,5 kilo a day. wich is 15 plants.

if you calculate that to a big town like la or ny or whatever then 7,5 kilo wont be enoufg by far. whit that many people you need a stash like 100 kilo in the shop to keep up whit demand.
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Did you happen to watch this video before posting?
Marijuana Debate?

I wasn't thinking about the video when i wrote the respond, but yes, I did watch it before
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[quote]3 grams lasts me a week if I'm smoking a lot.


3 grams last me 2 days.[/quote]

Yeah man, 3 grams in a week isn't that much. I can go through an eighth in a day, which happens a lot where I'm from, especially considering that most people don't smoke alone.

if you calculate that to a big town like la or ny or whatever then 7,5 kilo wont be enoufg by far. whit that many people you need a stash like 100 kilo in the shop to keep up whit demand.


Keep in mind that there are an obscene number of coffee shops in LA and NYC, so even if marijuana was legal to sell in them, they could probably meet demand.

Also, if marijuana were legalized, a whole new pricing system might be introduced. Hypothetically (I'm pulling random numbers out of the air), a dime of Train Wreck could cost $5, while a dime of AK47 could cost $20, meaning access would be both easier and harder.
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Keep in mind that there are an obscene number of coffee shops in LA and NYC


your coffeeshops are not dutch coffeshops they are 2 very different things. and beside i didn't ment 1 shop for a whole city. this was just 1 shop out of 26 for the city. about evry 500meters a shop. so multiply it by 26 and you got the demand for a small city.

a dime of Train Wreck could cost $5, while a dime of AK47 could cost $20, meaning access would be both easier and harder.


the only big difference between the marijuana is haze and no-haze.
hazes have a stronger working and have more taste. usely they cost about 5 euro per gram more then no-haze. it doesn't change the access to them.
and you do have special kinds that cost around 30 euro per gram but they are very rare and very hard to find. (example: "ice" (not ice-o-later)) but the price difference is because they all have other tastes and other effects as in strong/weak - long/short - fast/slow effect. it's the quality.
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your coffeeshops are not dutch coffeshops they are 2 very different things.


Well he did say if you could sell weed in them - and then they'd be pretty much exactly the same.

You know, i've changed my mind on this legality issue.
I think it's very double standard of me to say "No, America shouldn't legalize pot" when i go to Amsterdam for that exact reason.
If they execute it the way the dutch have, then sure, i'm all for it.
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