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schuetteg6
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Its stupid to be racist

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schuetteg6
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[quote]I have a dream.(Martin Luther King Jr.) I dont know the rest Im sorry...

314d1
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I know right, oh by the way if you dont put 7 words on anything you post its considered spam or scam I forgot... still remember that ok.


Spam, as in making pictures of rabbits out of commas is spam.

i hate racist ppl


Cool storeh bro. Any reason to that?

... Link, please? I'd like to read more into this, it would help me a lot as a Law Student in my school on top of the debate of racism.


A bit off topic, but "Debate of Racism"? What exactly is that about?

About 3 weeks ago. The crime happened about 22 years ago.


And the trial happened twenty years ago as well? That is what I am getting from the wiki. But really, with something like thirty to forty witnesses, even if they are questionable, tends to get you some time.
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Well in a simply white:black racial situation (I'm not trying to be racist or dissrespectful in any way) black people typically try to distance themselves from a lot of white people. But this is just my knowledge. Again no racism or stereotyping here just saying what I've seen.

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A bit off topic, but "Debate of Racism"? What exactly is that about?

Where racism has been a factor recently. Sorry for not being accurate, but basically carrying off from what I previously said.

That case wasn't very specific in Wikipedia. It had a lot of backround information but none really concerning a factor of racism.

An appeal to the Supreme Court can only be on a point of law, so I'm told - what was he trying to change?

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An appeal to the Supreme Court can only be on a point of law, so I'm told - what was he trying to change?


According to Troy Davis's wiki, it was "automatically" sent do to the fact the death penalty was in effect.

But I agree, it really doesn't look like Davis was infected by racism, it looks more like 30-40 witnesses against him, even if one was drunk, many didn't get a good look, or so on and so forth, that is enough to convict someone.
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As long as it's beyond reasonable doubt :/

I can see why the death penalty is rarely used, it's a shame really where this man could be innocent whereas certainly guilty people are put in for life, etc. :<

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I can see why the death penalty is rarely used, it's a shame really where this man could be innocent whereas certainly guilty people are put in for life, etc. :<


Its made to work out for everyone. If you really did commit the crime, and know you are probably going to get caught for it, it makes since to take the plead. Since many guilty people plead "guilty", the courts are supposed to have less stress and the accused gets off with a lighter sentence. This, of course, doesn't work off so well when actual innocent people plead innocent, taking the harsher sentence.

But it really doesn't matter what you or I thinks on the subject, just what the jury thinks. Its like the Casey B. Anthony trial (Hopefully I got the correct name.), except in reverse. Everyone thought Anthony was guilty, maybe even the jury, but they didn't have "beyond a reasonably doubt" needed for the death penalty. Here, some seem to think he was innocent, but the jury had the "beyond a reasonably doubt" so he was convicted. But, once again, he had a ton of witnesses against him, with half that he would have been convicted.
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My history teacher told me that 7 out of 9 of thw witnesses backed out. I'm not sure there was really much evidence against him.

314d1
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In total, thirty four witnesses testified at trial for the prosecution.[30]

Well...

He seems to have misread a passage.

Most of his argument concerned doubts about the conviction -- seven of the nine key witnesses to the murder of MacPhail later recanted their evidence -- but his final reason concerned the manner in which Davis was put to death.



Which is basically clever newspeak-lawyerspeak for saying several people recanted and didn't like the fact that their friend was put to death, maybe they where not sure enough, maybe they don't remember, or maybe the fact he was their friend kind of made them not want to tell. It doesn't say. But 34 other witnesses against like four defense witnesses means that the doubt is pretty much gone. Do keep in mind that this is coming from his defense lawyer, a man who's job it is to make him look innocent, and reporters who know that saying it was doubtful would get web traffic. (Probably. Really, just kind of shooting at the dark here. They could just be on his side.)
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Ah, I see. Thanks. So you think it was fair then. Compleatly fair?

314d1
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Ah, I see. Thanks. So you think it was fair then. Compleatly fair?


I think that having 34 witnesses beats having six (With one being the accused), so the jury was correct in convicting him. I am, however, pretty much basing it on the witness amount, I assume it is fair do to that overwhelming number of witnesses, however I don't know much of what they said or what happened in the court, however. But yes, I say it is safe to assume the trial was fair.
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We're not the same, we're not equal.

Some people have more worth than others, but skin color shouldn't be a deciding factor. Too bad in America, you get a job for being black and go to college free for being a native American.

We went from one extreme to the other. Good job.

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We went from one extreme to the other. Good job.


Considering that the American government pretty much wiped out the native americans in the 19th Century sending their remaining ancestors to university would be peanuts for the American economy.

But yes, I say it is safe to assume the trial was fair.


I would guess the trial was fair according to US standards. Nevertheless, when retrospectively many key witnesses recant their statements and there is no space allowed for a final appeal, I think it is naive to say it is a completely fair trial. Clearly race played some role, and the statistics show this.
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Yeah it's stupid, but there is just some dumb people who hates "black" people. I think that "black" people is so cool! (i'm "white&quot

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people are rasists becouse they think they are better than other people and they want to be the boss off everyone

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