as now things r going like Indian war excercises on our eastern borders and some american officials saying that they will attack in pakistan if they have to (like in jacobabad) do you think there will be a war on pakistan by India and america or both and what will b china & israel's position on it
Why would Israel help Pakistan? They hate all the Arab/Islamic countries. They;re more likely to fight against Pakistan. If India was going to do something it would've by now and besides diplomatic relations between India and Pakistan are too quick to allow it to escalate. I wouldn't count on any of the Communist countries to save you from America and Pakistan doesn't have any allies worth mentioning. Its likely to happen after Afghanistan as the Taliban flee to their strongholds. After Pakistan's obstinate attitude and big talk during bin Laden's removal by America and the fairly obvious fact that at least a few in Pakistan were helping him,as well as the strong Taliban influence there including extremist camps, Pakistan is likely to be next on the hit list in the war on terror. P.S. thepunisher93, you claim you'll fight tooth and nail but that big talk isn't going to do you any good and the U.S. will flatten you. I only hope the U.K. will join too and I'll be there to see it.
Israel doesn't want to be fighting wars, they are fighting for their own safety, I'm not sure they want to be taking the offensive strategy, but if they did fight, you're probably right.
apparently china will not send its army to help us but it can economically destroy america by just demanding its loans back. @ rickers that aint big talk' thats what people call patriotism. wont u fight for your queen? and i can assure u pakistan will b the stalingrad for any nation who attacks on it'
China cant control America by loans as China is too dependant on the U.S. and the West for trade and owns a lot of dollars which will ruin them if they become worthless. As to your comment on patriotism I do agree that I would hope I would have the bottle to fight to the very end but against an overwhelming enemy I would become just another faceless casualty. However, your comment on Stalingrad is misguided as Pakistan doesn't have the mass population or government structure the U.S.S.R. had to fight in that way and the American army is much more advanced compared to Pakistan than Germany was to Russia and would be able to avoid falling into that situation i.e. American logistics are much better than the Germans had and would be able to gain a decisive victory. Pakistan would do better in guerilla warfare but even then would not have the means the provide serious resistance once America cuts it's supplies. If you refer to the Taliban to counter this argument remember where the Taliban gain their income.
I am not sure America should be trying to go to war with Pakistan. Something we must know is that Pakistan is a lot stronger than people think. May cost tons of money and time. I am just not sure financially america can keep playing the game of Risk.
@ rickers u r right pakistan do not have massive population but we got enough resources to wipe out first wave of their infantry + we will have home advantage and then muslims from all over the world will come for our help(not officially though)
You overestimate the power of Pakistan in Islam. Not all Arab/Asian-Muslims are loyal to Pakistan and its very unlikely the Muslims in eastern Europe are going to head to Pakistan to help you fight.Besides how hard would it be for civilians to get to Pakistan in the middle of a war? If needs be, America has much more allies at hand than Pakistan, such as NATO. And as I was saying about resources before, in the case of war the first thing the U.S, and its allies would do would be to cut your supply lines and starve you. Pakistan may be stronger than people think but the U.S. and the U.K. have taken on much stronger.
I hope we invade them only after I join the military. How the hell am I supposed to get killed if we're not fighting anyone realistically?
To be honest, I would call it the first high intensity war of the 21st century. Pakistan is a large, fairly well developed country (at least compared to most of its compatriots), with a large and well trained military. If we ever invaded them, I would expect high casualties, but we'd still crush them. Not only do we have an easily accessible border on Afghanistan, India would very likely join us and allow us through their border. With Pakistan in a pincer, they wouldn't have very many places to turn. Pakistan is too far away from any good allies, though I would expect Iran to chime in. It would give us a good reason to wipe them off the face of the Earth, at least.
And thepunisher93, don't fight. You will die, and you will die for nothing. If our bullets don't kill you, our bombs will. At least give your family the ability to bury you, and not just some faint hope they'll find bone shards.
the usual usa tactic is to bomb the resources befor sending in infantry.
They still have an effective military (not saying it's the best, but it's not wimpy), 150,000,000+ potentially armed civilians, and a decent industry. It wouldn't be very difficult to roll over them, but I doubt it will be like Iraq or Afghanistan. There's just too many patriotic people.
@ rickers Pakistan is stronger than afghanistan and your forces could not afghanistan do you think they can conqure pakistan thats right that usa first bombs the place but air force never conquer a place army does that and we have seen their army and paf is much stronger than iraqi airforce and our military doctrine is if we r losing in conventional warfare we'll use nukes now unlike america we will not have any troops on american soil so that will b easy for us to nuke it I know u will say pakistan do not have technology OR america will bomb our nuke facilities ITS ANS IS yes pakistan have ICBM technology and nuclear facilities in pakistan are so secure that usually even president do not knows for sure where they are
@ orion unlike u americans we cosider it an honor to give our life for our country. We dont complain about defence share in our budget, we dont count how many dollars a day a war is taking only thing that matters to us is to win Our army has set many world records we have the record of fighting on worlds highest battle field highest artillery position PAF pilot M.M ALAM shot down 5 fighter planes in less than a minute if any one takes such an army light than all i can say is that he is/she is stupid
Are you cracking me jokes? Pakistan hasn't fought in any major conflicts ever, you wouldn't have a chance to set your nukes off as you would be atomised before then and even if you did the West's anti-nuke defences could easily deal with the soviet junk you call nukes. Your air-force may be stronger than Iraq's but it can even look at the U.K.'s or the U.S.s alone, never mind combined. Your comments on Afghanistan are stupid. It's a different type of war in Afghanistan, counter-insurgency rather than invasion, and the Taliban are being helped by the Pakistani government. You talk about honour and bravery yet you know nothing of it. Look at the past conflicts the U.S. and U.K. have fought in and they are full of heroic deeds. D-Day and Guadalcanal in WWII, the Battle of la Drang in Vietnam, Goose Green in the Falklands to name just a few of thousands compared to nothing from the Pakistanis. You would probably resort to terror attacks or hiding behind women and children, just like your Afghan comrades. You Pakistanis fought against the British for Japan in WWII and you were destroyed by the British and loyal Indian forces. You have never demonstrated any honour, dignity or courage. if any one takes such an army light than all i can say is that he is/she is stupid You lost to Bangladesh. Really good army you've got there.
