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thepunisher93
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as now things r going like Indian war excercises on our eastern borders and some american officials saying that they will attack in pakistan if they have to (like in jacobabad)
do you think there will be a war on pakistan by India and america or both
and
what will b china & israel's position on it

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EmperorPalpatine
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by the time he jumped on the granade evry1 could have jumped away

With no idea how long it was since the pin was pulled (and the spoon was released, of course)? Usually they'll blow in 5 seconds. If the person was holding it for 2 after releasing the spoon, and it took another second to land, that leaves 2 seconds. Humans take at least half a second to physically react in some way other than with eyes. How far can you run in 1.5 seconds?
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whatever you want. for me he is still a idiot. and i will never consider him a hero.


I guess the only heroes you know about are the ones in comic books, then (expression).

With no idea how long it was since the pin was pulled (and the spoon was released, of course)? Usually they'll blow in 5 seconds. If the person was holding it for 2 after releasing the spoon, and it took another second to land, that leaves 2 seconds. Humans take at least half a second to physically react in some way other than with eyes. How far can you run in 1.5 seconds?


Even though I'm replying to him, I've begun to see the point in arguing with him...there is no point in arguing with him. i'm going to start saving my words for someone who's actually looking to debate about the topic of the thread rather than America's lust for war, which seems to be the only thing partydevil will talk about, since the thread has been derailed in a way.
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I guess the only heroes you know about are the ones in comic books, then


sure there have been 6 or 7 super-heroes around the last 70 year and if we count the ww2 also then even 10...
sure that is what i ment when i said that.

it started off whit heroic deeds from the country. the guy said 1000's because he counts evry soldier as a heroic deed xD wich is just stupid.

rather than America's lust for war, which seems to be the only thing partydevil will talk about


america's lust for war is the reason why there are so many wars and why there is so much violence. but still showing yourself off as look we are so awsome and good while your the reason for this BS thats going on in the world.

and then even going to cry because rich people earn more money then you do. what do you want? that i love america for all it's BS?
never. i like evry country equaly except for usa they are the violaters of this world.


i guess ive got myself clear now so have fun whit your topic =)
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america's lust for war is the reason why there are so many wars and why there is so much violence. but still showing yourself off as look we are so awsome and good while your the reason for this BS thats going on in the world


I don't think your country would just sit there while another country is shooting at your troops, either. Pakistan shooting at our troops, that to me is an act of war.

it started off whit heroic deeds from the country


No, the thread started off with a question asking if we thought the U.S. would declare war on Pakistan.

the guy said 1000's because he counts evry soldier as a heroic deed xD wich is just stupid


It is stupid, no reason to call all Americans stupid. And remember, AG was made by Americans, so when you call the U.S.A. violators of the world, you're also calling the admins violators of the world.

i like evry country equaly except for usa they are the violaters of this world


Simple solution for that: If you hate the country so much, don't pay any attention to us. Why would you get an account for an American website if you despise the U.S.? Mostly curious, post your answer on my profile, if you want.
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don't think your country would just sit there while another country is shooting at your troops,


when was the last time usa had a war on there own ground?
1812?
america never gets shot 1st. you invade them and shoot them 1st

No, the thread started off with a question asking if we thought the U.S. would declare war on Pakistan.


that was befor that. and i gave my idea on the matter in the 3rd post of the topic.

no reason to call all Americans stupid.

i'm not going into that Generalization subject again. ive made myself often enoufg clear about how i use general terms. and not so long ago even.

when you call the U.S.A. violators of the world, you're also calling the admins violators of the world.


see the answerd from the quote above =)

don't pay any attention to us

it's hard if that country is full whit people that are shouting for attention the whole time. always talking about their country and how awsome they are and that they are the best in evrything in the world. etc etc. i could if the americans would shut up about "how big fish they have catched"

Why would you get an account for an American website if you despise the U.S.?

if it wasn't clear yet. i hate the country not ALL the people
(but most yes) and i joined AG for the sake of old skool gaming. =)
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the guy said 1000's because he counts evry soldier as a heroic deed xD

Out of the millions who have fought in recent wars (including WWII), it's quite likely that at least 0.1% did something heroic.
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when was the last time usa had a war on there own ground?
1812?

Pearl harbor (Dec 7 1941)
partydevil
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Pearl harbor (Dec 7 1941)

oke and after ww2?
when the heroism of being the hero of ww2 went to your head? what about the 26 wars usa has fought after ww2? youve invaded 26 times in 65 year time. thats a world record for most wars in the shortest time. and why? because you want to be that hero again. and again.... and again.....and... you got the point.
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26 wars

I don't remember the thread (since it has died) where I discredited most of that list because they were government reforms, not wars.
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thats your believe. i believe when a soldier is killing people that are not on his own side that we call that a war.

you say libia is not in war? china did not take over tibet whit a war?
yugoslavia was not a war? congo was not a war?

that sounds silly to me especialy because they all are documented as being a war.

but if you want to deny it. be my guest =)

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and why?


Because adrenaline is a lot like meth, only you don't end up eating your scabs XD.

when the heroism of being the hero of ww2 went to your head?


Going from the underdogs to becoming the world's leading military power is a big deal. It's almost like going from slave to king in one leap, skipping everything between. You guys would be no different if it was you. Put yourself in our shoes and see things from our perspective.
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but if you want to deny it. be my guest =)

Alright, put up the list then. One of the things on that list was US occupying China after WWII to help clear out loyal Japanese who wouldn't leave. How is that a war?
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i believe when a soldier is killing people that are not on his own side that we call that a war.

Some of those reforms were bloodless.
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Going from the underdogs


between 1830 and 1940 the usa was not a underdog it was a normale country like any other country. no extra violence or loads of arrogant people whit a narrow mind.
i can see how you were the underdog in 1812 but after that not realy.

Put yourself in our shoes and see things from our perspective.

i can, we had the VOC, and we owned the slaves market. we were doing awsome. but not evry1 liked us because we did it. now after 200/300 years of slave trading we figured out that it was bad what we were doing.
now it's time for the americans to realalise that their policing the world is not a good, but a bad thing.

(and it's the same how i take perspective from the terrorists point of view (needed some research for that) or the chinese point of view or the guys i met from congo and brazil.
i am able to take those perspectives. and my conclusions made to what i believe now.)
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thats your believe. i believe when a soldier is killing people that are not on his own side that we call that a war


Basically what Pakistani Border Police did to some U.S. soldiers because they 'were too close to the border'? I read it in the newspaper a while back and Osama (I read this in '10) gave the Border Police props for doing it. If what you say is correct, then they took the first shot, not the U.S.
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