As you know things have been going for muslims for last decade.All the discrimination and hatred they have been facing. Led to the rise of the term Islamophobia. What r ur thoughts on it.
as I have said earlier in terms of islamaphobia: islam is a beautiful religion with a vast majority of peaceful individuals, it's only with the very tiny minority of religious fundamentalists and nutjobs who take everything literally do we have any problems. so I guess the only way to end religious intolerance is to teach those who are the cause to read between the lines of what they read, and draw their own conclusions, not the one the book says. if we can teach that, then there may be peace in the world yet.
Right! And this very tiny minority is less than 1% of the whole Muslim Community. Thank you Blade for this comment.
Out of that, maybe this is going to sound a bit too religious, or that I'm trying to protect my religion or whatever. It isn't. What I'm going to tell now is just a fact, written in the Qur'an and the Hadiths.
You all know the following verse, right?
"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.(Qur'an 2:256)"
So, there is no compulsion. No compulsion by making people convert to Islam, and no compulsion in Islam itself(e.g. practises). Muhammed(pbuh) said that Islam is a religion of ease, and that it is very easy to go to Heaven. Muhammed(pbuh) said too that you must not make the religion too hard for you, and make it as easy as it is for you.
So being radical, is NOT accepted by Islam. So Radical Islam = Not Islam. Because something that's forbidden in Islam, is not a part of Islam, right? So, what we call radical muslims, are not muslims, and are being hated by God.
To these guys who are gonna say: No 2:256 is a early verse and Islam is not tolerant and whatsoever. I have a question for them; how did Islam spread so fast?
as I have said earlier in terms of islamaphobia: islam is a beautiful religion with a vast majority of peaceful individuals, it's only with the very tiny minority of religious fundamentalists and nutjobs who take everything literally do we have any problems. so I guess the only way to end religious intolerance is to teach those who are the cause to read between the lines of what they read, and draw their own conclusions, not the one the book says. if we can teach that, then there may be peace in the world yet.
i dont know much about islam but from what i know its not 100% peacefull (which i doubt any INDIVIDUAL is even close to that).
its pretty subjective.
for example: if you will go back in this thread you will find an argument about people who disrespect islam.
again, i dont know much about it but punisher did say that muslims believe that it is ok to kill/hurt people if they disrespect their belief.
this is not peaceful in my opinion.
for me saying: "i am peaceful except for when......"
is not peacefull.
so now im asking you. is what punisher said truly a part of islam?
and about your question. i do not know. but that means nothing. every person has something to agree and disagree on.
who knows? maybe people would gain something from converting? i wouldnt be surprised if some extremists offered help/money/food to those who convert.
things that spray fast arent necessairly good/bad.
for example: if you will go back in this thread you will find an argument about people who disrespect islam.
Sorry but I'm too lazy to search it up. Can you show me that argument?
again, i dont know much about it but punisher did say that muslims believe that it is ok to kill/hurt people if they disrespect their belief.
1. In another thread, I saw that what Punisher said was whole different of what we understood. And 2.; that's not true. You can't just kill/hurt someone if s/he disrespects Islam. There is no Hadith or verse that supports this.
and about your question. i do not know. but that means nothing. every person has something to agree and disagree on.
who knows? maybe people would gain something from converting? i wouldnt be surprised if some extremists offered help/money/food to those who convert.
things that spray fast arent necessairly good/bad.
I'll answer the question for you. Why did Islam spread so fast? Tolerance. The tolerance against other believes and cultures(e.g. language).
My point is that the media is reporting on areas of the world all the time, almost promoting the extremist's views in the process, whilst the peaceful majority isn't seen at all because it doesn't make for a good news story.
Because of the nature of the stories, it is up to the individual to how they interpret it, but it spreads a view that the East is full of violence and chaos. In reality, it is no different from the news stories in Western countries with daily murders, attacks and intolerance.
I believe that the media is the one mostly responsible for causing Islamophobia. They seem to post a lot on extremist muslims over other extremists in my opinion.
You're kidding right, @thepunisher you are extremely ignorant and stereotypical. Not EVERY American follows the military's decision nor the country's... but almost all of their decisions have great reasoning.
I understand that there are a ton of Islam people who disagree with Terrorism but so many are being bred to believe that America is the 'bad guy' and that the terrorists are heroes. I don't hate islam at all.. I just feel that too many of them are extremists. They don't understand that people should have their own beliefs.
The world will never be at peace. Especially when people are arrogant.
I understand that there are a ton of Islam people who disagree with Terrorism but so many are being bred to believe that America is the 'bad guy' and that the terrorists are heroes. I don't hate islam at all.. I just feel that too many of them are extremists. They don't understand that people should have their own beliefs.
The world will never be at peace. Especially when people are arrogant.
They dont see USA as a bad guy until They lose their hard working father in a drone attack Their elder brother is sent to guantanamo bay for nothing Then they see USA as a bad guy and I wont blame them.
[quote]many are being bred to believe that America is the 'bad guy' and that the terrorists are heroes.[/quote
xSgtThomasx, the problem is the involvement of the military in Muslim countries such as Iraq. The drone strikes used by the military and (I believe that they started to use night raids now) cause deaths of civilians and therefore is it no surprise that Americans are seen as the bad guys by the people of that country? Imagine the situation reversed and see what your feelings are. Also what happened to the WMD's supposed to be in Iraq?
I understand that there are a ton of Islam people who disagree with Terrorism but so many are being bred to believe that America is the 'bad guy' and that the terrorists are heroes. I don't hate islam at all.. I just feel that too many of them are extremists. They don't understand that people should have their own beliefs.
Aren't you being overly hypocritical? I come from a Muslim majority region, and although some might be a little racist (Note, Racist, since I'm of Chinese stock), they are splendid folk who don't foist their religion on others.
As others have said, you can't blame the ordinary Pakistani to think that the Americans are the work of the Devil, coming in with their drones and air strikes, whilst occasionally raping their women and killing innocents. Just as the aggressors are viewed as vile enemies, such as the 9/11 attacks, so too are the American soldiers.
Also, the media must have done a splendid job since people now think that there are proportionately so many Muslim extremists.
They dont see USA as a bad guy until They lose their hard working father in a drone attack Their elder brother is sent to guantanamo bay for nothing Then they see USA as a bad guy and I wont blame them.
So we're in a causality loop.
America will continue to launch attacks on those it perceives as terrorists, causing future generations to develop hatred towards America. This hatred will lead to more terrorist attacks, which will provoke the Americans into launching attacks on those it perceives as terrorists.
Whether or not, what the people of either side want seems to be irrelevant. Each will blame the other, when the true cause is lack of communication between one side views as a vile regime and visa versa.
The UK's involvement is, at best, supporting America's so-called war on terror but at worst, ignoring the interests of it's own people for political favour.
It's the Cold War II. Or maybe considering the geographical locations of conflict it should be known as the Rarely Cold War.
Each will blame the other, when the true cause is lack of communication between one side views as a vile regime and visa versa
at the end it's because the usa is poking around in affairs they have nothing to do whit. that people hate them. i hate the usa aswell. and the usa and my country are allies. never a drone attack or whatever. don't think the usa is only hated in the mid-east. usa is hated evrywhere in the world.
it's just the usa world police story and the american attitude towards people from other country's. (not only the governments attitude. but the majority of the people aswell.) you will never see me cry for anything bad happening in the usa (unless some1 i know is involved in it i guess.)
you will never see me cry for anything bad happening in the usa (unless some1 i know is involved in it i guess.)
So if there is a terrorist attack on the scale of 9/11, you won't even be saddened by it.
at the end it's because the usa is poking around in affairs they have nothing to do whit. that people hate them.
America is the world's police force only because the world had demanded them to be as such after WWII. Also, when something bad happens, everyone turns the America to step in, but if they don't than all these countries who tell them to bug out of world affairs start complaining. ****ed if we do, ****ed if we don't.
it's just the usa world police story and the american attitude towards people from other country's. (not only the governments attitude. but the majority of the people aswell.) you will never see me cry for anything bad happening in the usa (unless some1 i know is involved in it i guess.)
What exactly is the American attitude toward other countries? What are your people's attitude toward other countries. I'm trying to understand what you mean by this.
