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thepunisher93
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As you know things have been going for muslims for last decade.All the discrimination and hatred they have been facing.
Led to the rise of the term Islamophobia.
What r ur thoughts on it.

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thepunisher93
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Because the USA attacks Iraq, people become scared of Islam. I don't think that's true.

My bad
I thought you said that America's war crime's have nothing to do with retaliation by muslims, which in turn contributes to Islamophobia
partydevil
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Could all of you quit the off-topic chitchat? 2 pages full of BS. Make a new thread or something and talk about it there. Islamophobia has nothing to do with "the crimes of the USA" or whatever.


my valid question about islamophobia was ignored and denyed because it was off-topic.
so don't blame me for going realy off-topic. it seemed like it was what people wanted from this topic.
if people actualy wanted to talk about islamophobia then my question befor would not have been ignored and denyed.
goumas13
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@ partydevil Could you repeat your question? Perhaps this time it won't be ignored.

partydevil
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i guess i can bring this up in this topic (srry didn't read any posts here since my last.)

but i was wondering, is it possible that we all agree on that this man has Islamophobia. (check point 4 if you want to see his believes and the propaganda he is spreading.


then it got compleetly ignored after some1 has posted this after me.
...really off topic devil. I'm not going to lie, it really has nothing to do with the current part of the discussion.

(their discussion was also off-topic just like 80% of the pages.)
i was only asking the question to see if i'm right about what i think what islamophobia means.
and if so then we would have a person to talk about. a person that also actualy says these things and not only think like most.
Reiki000
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I think this was the question partydevil reffered to.

but i was wondering, is it possible that we all agree on that this man - Geert Wilders - has Islamophobia. (check point 4 if you want to see his believes and the propaganda he is spreading.


And that it was called off-topic.

...really off topic devil.


What Blade said. Blade said that it was off topic because they were talking about a whole other subject in Islamophobia. And you yourself said that you didn't read the posts since your last.

srry didn't read any posts here since my last.


I will answer your question. Yes, partydevil. Geert surely has Islamophobia. He says that there will be a "tsunami" of Islamic migration and that the muslims not just in the Netherlands but in Europe would be doubled and go on. There are many videos and commentarys(with statistics) that this "tsunami" is not true.

Assuming your Dutch, this video explains the whole thing(in the Netherlands) very good.

For other people, this is an example of a "frightening" video. I think the music is actually pretty nice .

I hope you're satisfied now, Partydevil.

Greetings
goumas13
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but i was wondering, is it possible that we all agree on that this man has Islamophobia. (check point 4 if you want to see his believes and the propaganda he is spreading.

Yea, that person is definitely islamophobic, at least according to the wikipedia page you provided.
I quote form the link:
He suggests that Muslims should "tear out half of the Koran if they wished to stay in the Netherlands"

That statement certainly shows prejudice against Muslims and fear of Islam.

i was only asking the question to see if i'm right about what i think what islamophobia means.

If you think that Islamophobia means "hatred or fear of Muslims or of their politics or culture" you are right.

Disclaimer: My opinion is only based on one particular article. I have no personal and/or unbiased and/or widespread knowledge of this person's opinions on Islam or his party's, therefore in all probability my opinion could be misguided and incorrect.
I also fervently deny any knowledge of Dutch politcs.
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The best way to get rid of Islamophobia is to get rid of Islam.

Every phobia has a reason for existing, though they mean seem crazy, it is justified to the person who has it.

And before you all start saying "thats no reason to get rid of it" well spiders are disliked due to fears our ancestors had when spiders were a real threat, not because they follow a belief that stunts civilisation and is the cause of many horrific incidents throughout history.

And then you all say what about Christianity and the crusades, well, we over time stopped. Majority of modern Christians are only Chrisitians as a formality, only a few zealots dedicate their lives to it.

Overall no other modern religion is so fanatic about dominating other lives through any means necessary. This doesn't just mean extremist imposing their will but when the state ha to adapt to their beliefs, not the other way around.

If I went to school with my face covered would I be allowed to? No. What if I said it was my religion? No. Why? Because I can't pull the racist card that is so easily taken advantage of.

The reason Islamophobia exists is because it is our only method of retalition without causing a fuss.

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well spiders are disliked due to fears our ancestors had when spiders were a real threat, not because they follow a belief that stunts civilisation and is the cause of many horrific incidents throughout history.


Islam is no real threat.

And then you all say what about Christianity and the crusades, well, we over time stopped. Majority of modern Christians are only Chrisitians as a formality, only a few zealots dedicate their lives to it.


The majority of muslims are moderates.

If I went to school with my face covered would I be allowed to? No. What if I said it was my religion? No. Why? Because I can't pull the racist card that is so easily taken advantage of.


You can't go to school with your face covered? I can.

The best way to get rid of Islamophobia is to get rid of Islam.


That's the best way to get rid of a phobia? To destroy you fears? I'm scared of snakes, so why don't I just kill all the snakes I see? It doesn't make sense. Islam isn't even a threat. Terroists, are a threat, serial killers are a threat, Islam? Nope. I've never had Islam hurt me. I've had terrorist attacks where I like. But I've never had Islam attack me.
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phobia means an ILLOGICAL fear.

it means that even though you DO KNOW it cant harm you you will still fear it.

explain hemophobia. you think that i am afraid of blood because i think its poisonous? needles? same thing.

you CANT get rid of a phobia and this is WHY phobias are so downlooked at, espacially when its a phobia against a person.

you think there is a reason some people are afraid of bald people?

get rid of your fears does not mean to overcome it and you cant grow if you just run away or destroy them.

i guess you could say i have a fear of hights. the feeling i get when i see a view from a high place is amazing though. i am very scared yet i feel great that i can do this. that wont make me stop being afraid though. the feeling of being scared will come back the next time im in a high place.

phobias do NOT exist for a reason. they are problems. being afraid of spiders means that you are afraid of ALL the spiders not just the dangerous ones.

islamophobia, hemophobia, homophobia and many others are just fears that have no reason to exist. but your the one who can decide if you want them to control your life.

if a person has a fear of scars he should start to destroy all the people who have scars?

phobias are defenitely not a reason to judge, act of say anything because they ARE illogical

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wow... for a second i was mad that you actually trolled and posted like this. then i noticed your not punisher XP lol sorry. same pic. i HAD to scroll up and check if that was really you XD

volcanboy
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HA I'm just really pleased that you have a sense of humour

Reiki000
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The best way to get rid of Islamophobia is to get rid of Islam.

pho·bi·a
n.

1. A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.
2. A strong fear, dislike, or aversion.(thefreedictionary)

Your statement is just ... nonsense. Ok, I have respect for your view, but this argument is just stupid. You are saying that you need to destroy Islam, so the believers too, to stop this, persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.

There are many people who have homophobia, why? Don't know. The solution for this phobia; destroy all the homosexuals, and this phobia is over. Do you see how stupid it sounds?

Or, claustrophobia. Or, acrophobia. Or, or... The solution for all of this is just to destroy what people is scared of.

Every phobia has a reason for existing, though they mean seem crazy, it is justified to the person who has it.

The existense of every phobia is just nonsense. It is a type of an anxiety disorder. A disorder. It is an illness.

And before you all start saying "thats no reason to get rid of it" well spiders are disliked due to fears our ancestors had when spiders were a real threat, not because they follow a belief that stunts civilisation and is the cause of many horrific incidents throughout history.

Ok. Let's destroy all the spiders. Is that your solution? Everything has a goal, and a reason for existence.

What if there were no spiders? More bugs, less food for birds. Less birds=less food for animals that eat birds and go on. Spiders are amazing animals. But there are people who are feared of these amazing animals. As the term phobia explains, a very stupid fear.

And then you all say what about Christianity and the crusades, well, we over time stopped. Majority of modern Christians are only Chrisitians as a formality, only a few zealots dedicate their lives to it.

I don't want people to remind of him, but what about Anders Breivik? That guy killed 77 innocent children. To save the world of Islam by destroying it. Sounds similiar doesn't it? This guy was an terrorist. He was Christian, and hated Islam. So, he bombed an important building and killed 77 children. Is this guy one of these "zealots"?

And he was just an example. NLFT, Iron Guard, Lord's Resistance Army, KKK, Army of God, Lambs of Christ, Hutaree etc. All are of the members of these groups just "zealots"?

Overall no other modern religion is so fanatic about dominating other lives through any means necessary. This doesn't just mean extremist imposing their will but when the state ha to adapt to their beliefs, not the other way around.

We are not dominating! We are spreading Islam by telling the religion, the life of the Prophets(pbut) etc. We are not dominating.


If I went to school with my face covered would I be allowed to? No. What if I said it was my religion? No. Why? Because I can't pull the racist card that is so easily taken advantage of.

There are many who are allowed to.

The reason Islamophobia exists is because it is our only method of retalition without causing a fuss.

Islamophobia exists because e.g. just 2% of the US has knowledge about Islam. Because nobody has knowledge about Islam, they become scared of it. By attacks like 9/11.

Did you know that more then 90% of Afghanistan doesn't know what happend at 9/11? People hearing every attack of an "Islamic terrorist group" on the media. If I wasn't a muslim, and if I learned everything throught the media. Then...

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EmperorPalpatine
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The existense of every phobia is just nonsense.

If you have an 'irrational' fear of something that is in the area, such as tigers if you live in India, is it really stupid to worry about being attacked, especially if many family members and friends have also been killed?
partydevil
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how is fear for tigers called?
"fear for tigers" right?

thepunisher93
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Unless there is a man eater, your fear of tigers will be irrational.

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