Right, you know what the problem here is guys? The fact that there are so many retaliatory attacks that one can easily go up the chain and blame each party. The baseline though, is that the conflict has now degenerated into small scale hit and run attacks with occasional flare ups of hot wars.
Using such incidents to put the blame on any side is microscopic if we don't even look at the bigger picture, which we have discussed a long time ago.
So if we're going to play the blame game, in order not to be close-minded, zoom out, and consider the larger picture. That would be it for now.
but if they were right, why took it in first place?
Because it looked as if they did it, and denying something everyone thought they did would have looked worse for them, I'm assuming.
Just look at this
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i mean this
About the first article on the page. I'm not going to say the way the Israelis reacted was right here, it completely wasn't, but I am going to point out that they weren't the ones who struck first.
About the first article on the page. I'm not going to say the way the Israelis reacted was right here, it completely wasn't, but I am going to point out that they weren't the ones who struck first.
They had good resone. The Israeli Navy had a blockade set up, and that turkish vessel was a blockade runner. It may have been carrying humanitarian supplies, but that is no excuse to try to run a military blockade. And the only resone the Israeli Commandos killed people on the ship is because the turks attacked them with baseball bats and tire irons ext. The Israelis were under attack and they defended themselves. You probably would have done the same thing if you were attacked.
They had good resone. The Israeli Navy had a blockade set up, and that turkish vessel was a blockade runner. It may have been carrying humanitarian supplies, but that is no excuse to try to run a military blockade. And the only resone the Israeli Commandos killed people on the ship is because the turks attacked them with baseball bats and tire irons ext. The Israelis were under attack and they defended themselves. You probably would have done the same thing if you were attacked.
Just a point, what on earth tyre iron and base ball bat was doing on a ship? Secondly they were neither on pals waters nor israeli waters, IDF had no jurisdiction there. By doing this, Israel's actions can be seen as war act against participating nations.
when you kill some nation's children, take their land, than such things are bound to happen.
im not going to argue with you about the whole land part. your saying that children of israel were never killed? your talking as if its a one sided war. children of this nations get killed too in horibble ways and if its the land part that makes you feel the way you feel then you underestimate the lives compared to the land. you havnt experienced anything more then any israeli but many of them experienced much more then you
I've just skyped with a group of Palestinian students today, and they gave quite interesting takes.
A) They on a whole feel Hamas is a joke, pretty much on the same level that most of us hate our government.
B) They have grown angry and depressed when their own peaceful protests do no good, hence many are increasingly bellicose. They hate the blockade, which causes severe shortages, of even the most basic of medicines and foods.
C) However, this belligerence is limited to driving off the Israelis from their land i.e West Bank + Gaza Strip, and not destroying the state of Israel.
D) Some of them have lived in Jerusalem before the wall was erected, and they have some Jewish friends.
E) The advent of social media has made the Palestinian youths much more liberal.
Either way, it was too hard to squeeze out much from a two hour dialogue plagued by bad signals, so I might follow up through blogs/FB/Twitter.
I don't know why, maybe because it was part of the humanitarian supplies!!!!!!!
You just hate Israel don't you.
Is saying crap about Israel how you entertain yourself? Please, Get. A. LIFE.
If a lifeless person is offending you this much, you should reconsider your life style too.
im not going to argue with you about the whole land part. your saying that children of israel were never killed? your talking as if its a one sided war. children of this nations get killed too in horibble ways and if its the land part that makes you feel the way you feel then you underestimate the lives compared to the land. you havnt experienced anything more then any israeli but many of them experienced much more then you
just look at my links on previous page and tell me who lost more people?
A) They on a whole feel Hamas is a joke, pretty much on the same level that most of us hate our government.
B) They have grown angry and depressed when their own peaceful protests do no good, hence many are increasingly bellicose. They hate the blockade, which causes severe shortages, of even the most basic of medicines and foods.
C) However, this belligerence is limited to driving off the Israelis from their land i.e West Bank + Gaza Strip, and not destroying the state of Israel.
If they don't get what rightfully is there's, than eventualy they'll join hamas or any other militant group.
If they don't get what rightfully is there's, than eventualy they'll join hamas or any other militant group.
That's something I might query them on. They don't seem like the kind of people who would blow themselves up, in fact many of them would not be out of place in a liberal arts college in Michigan. Half of them study French literature!
They feel it's a joke, more so because they have failed in their promises, and because to them, Hamas has twisted what Islam means to them.
That's something I might query them on. They don't seem like the kind of people who would blow themselves up, in fact many of them would not be out of place in a liberal arts college in Michigan. Half of them study French literature!
They feel it's a joke, more so because they have failed in their promises, and because to them, Hamas has twisted what Islam means to them.
every one have a limit of taking BS when one reaches that limit he do anything he can to put an end to it. they may not do something now but eventually they will.
just look at my links on previous page and tell me who lost more people?
who lost more people? so you think you can be more angry/sad/whatever because people you techincally dont know died and they are techincally on your side?
you cant just count lives like that and the fact that they are on your side doesnt make their life any more important.
more lives lost=/= more chances of hatred and if you can let that opinion take over your mind you start being subjective. any person who lost someone close to them experienced more then you and the fact that you heard something in the news doesnt justify your hatred.
no, hearing about those things doesnt do that to you and when i say that other people who hear about those things dont act this way you cant just say that you heard about it more. dont look for ways to blame the world for your subjective mind. there are many people in both sides who experienced more things then you do and they can actually use logic
