Supporting Israel? it's a yope for me. my reasoning will be in the last parts as i present my opinion on the matter in conjecture with everyone's recent comments
Not a fundamentalist state, though there are fundamentalist idiots....as will be in all countries.
definitely not one of those fundamentalist state, though i'm pretty sure that fact isn't proven by throwing in random facts like "Israel is a scholar country, there are no religious prosecution, most of the peoples are scholar, full rights for gays, marriage before the age of 18 is prohibited, etc, etc". I'm pretty sure that some of those facts are even wrong, such as most of Israelis are scholars, which i seriously doubt; nevertheless that is not in the scope of the discussion isn't it?
you will notice that Israel help every time another country is in trouble
I seriously doubt this. It depends on how you classify a country as being "troubled" and even if you use your own definition, i'm pretty sure you only help those that are on the same line of thinking as you are. You don't help your arab neighbours when they are in turmoil ( currently, your Syrian neighbour is pretty troubled), or some countries around the world as well ( do you help the countries afflicted by the 2004 tsunami anyway?)
In addition to this, there isn't really anything about the existence of it that is illegal.
I wonder what the other arabian neighbouring states will say about this statement....................
The reasons that the Palestinian state was never built is because the arabic nations around Israel decided to take these lands for themselves
Hmmmm..... the neighbouring arabian countries at some point controlled the Gaza and the surrounding lands we now call as "Israel". So, i seriously doubt that your lands are yours to begin with. But, i also doubted that the lands on Israel are "theirs" to begin with. Even the roman empire controlled Israel at some point, so if we use this line of reasoning, then Israel should be controlled by Italians, which is pretty far-fetched and obviously wrong.
UN voted yes
only presented a majority opinion, not a true "fact". Also, your neighbours don't really support the idea of your existence. unless you can make those around you "accept" you, then you will never be a truly legally existing country. That's my opinion on my matter
So what is a legit way to be called a "country"
Technically, you need three things to start a country:
1. Teritory
2. People in it as your "citizen"
3. some sort of law or bereaucracy
You have all three and presto! you created a country. you have no problem with number two and three of the country creation criterion. But you have a very huge problem with number one :teritory. Traditionally, as how i was taught in politics (mine is called PKN, which is pretty equivalent to it), you can only hold terries that you have a very good reason for it to become your terries. for example, my country consisted of lands that was once under the VOC and the Netherlands colonialization government, which was also my country's land to begin with since the first kingdoms appear and even beyond that. From that line of reasoning, I can build a strong case of why my country have all the terries from "Sabang" to "Merauke". However, in your so called state of "Israel", your lands were colonized by semitic people at first, but was quickly jockeyed by other kingdoms and proto-states also in your vicinity that existed in the classical age to near your point of conception. as of such, i have two problems with your teritorials. one, because of your historical past, multiple countries have multiple claims on your terries. they can also build a strong case as to why they "deserved" to have your terries, especially palestine. As of such, your claim on your teritorials can become pretty obsolete according to multiple countries. Mine only have to deal with 2 countries for the validation of our terries; Instead, you have to probably deal with more than 4 countries due to your past. Second, with the same root with your past, is that maybe your land has been "assimilated". that is, your native culture has been eroded away and have been diluted with other non-native culture. this happened various times in the americas plus australia.
Personally, i support the existence of your country. i don't support your palestine excursion campaign though, and i certainly do not support the blockade of the Gazan palestine terries
