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Information about the acts and their impacts (sorry that I couldn't find anything unbiased).
What does everyone think about these acts? Will it truly lead to the 'death of the internet' in America and set dangerous precedents for other countries/governments? Or are people just blowing it up out of proportion?
From all the news stories that I've read about it, it seems like these acts really could be disastrous (if they manage to pass), but I want to get other peoples' views/opinions on the subject.
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I completely agree unless it's a site that promotes the distribution of child pornographyWell, yeah. If it has anything to do with child pornography, then they can ban it. I think, though, that they're going to go all out of control with this and eventually end up where the Internet is censored from itself. Technically, the Internet could become useless because every website that was ever created could be banned simply because of "obscene content". The world today makes the government too worked up over everything. They still make some good decisions, but that bill will ruin the Internet. Trust me.
The world today makes the government too worked up over everything. They still make some good decisions, but that bill will ruin the Internet. Trust me.
I'm not promoting these bills because I think censorship in any way, form, or fashion is wrong. Once the government gets its grubby paws in to censor little thinks they'll start censoring everything!
I'm not promoting these bills because I think censorship in any way, form, or fashion is wrong. Once the government gets its grubby paws in to censor little thinks they'll start censoring everything!No, I'm fine with them censoring certain things that are just plain out horrible, but they'll get a taste for it and start censoring everything except their own sites. It's all going to fall down if they pass that bill.
No, I'm fine with them censoring certain things that are just plain out horrible, but they'll get a taste for it and start censoring everything except their own sites. It's all going to fall down if they pass that bill.
Plain out horrible like what specifically? To them armorgames might be horrible because it promotes the freedom of dicussion, but to us it's not. My point is that the government shouldn't have a right to censor the Internet. It's up to site moderators, the community, etc, to distinguish between obscenity or not.
Plain out horrible like what specifically? To them armorgames might be horrible because it promotes the freedom of dicussion, but to us it's not.
It is this part of SOPA that everyone is disagreeing with. It is so broad. I do believe something needs to be done about piracy, allowing for these government takedowns is absurd. And then holding sites accountable for what users upload is even worse.
I do believe something needs to be done about piracy, allowing for these government takedowns is absurd.
Why? There are a number of artist that use such services to get seen. Material of this nature was headed in the direction of going online but groups like the RIAA and MPAA were refusing to change with the times, instead wanting to continue to over charge for outmoded methods. Online piracy opened the flood gates for this change as such we now have more legitimate online services such as Hulu and Netflix.
We are now but 3 days away from the house committees' discussion and possible vote on SOPA. The new opposition legeslation to SOPA finally has a name: the Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act (OPEN). I do hope SOPA does not get the vote.
Since we've gotten to the topic of illegal downloading and piracy - I thought it was rather appropriate to bring this article to your attention about what the government in Switzerland thinks of it all.
"The overall conclusion of the study is that the current copyright law, under which downloading copyrighted material for personal use is permitted, doesnât have to change."
"The government report further concludes that even in the current situation where piracy is rampant, the entertainment industries are not necessarily losing money."
"The overall suggestion the Swiss government communicates to the entertainment industries is that they should adapt to the change in consumer behavior, or die. They see absolutely no need to change the law because downloading has no proven negative impact on the production of national culture."
They are clearly just being greedy little SOBs. I was pissed off enough by us giving up freedom for the perception of of security. Now we are looking at giving up freedom for someone's bottom line!
And so the debate started today. From what I've read, many representatives have no idea how the internet works. As expected. Thankfully, there are a few that do. Hopefully they can manage to change opinions.
In other news, a Russian BitTorrent tracking site has tracked pirated content back to the IPs of Sony, NBC/Universal, and FOX, all supporters of SOPA. Loss of credibility there.
In other news, a Russian BitTorrent tracking site has tracked pirated content back to the IPs of Sony, NBC/Universal, and FOX, all supporters of SOPA. Loss of credibility there.
I didn't know they had credibility to lose in this respect.
we truely need to stop them here is why //www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeEcoi8kEuU
I am going to leave my personal opinion out of this and think the SOPA bill through rationally...
The government wants to block certain parts of websites which have copyrighted/pirated material.
To do so would require internet providers to block the "arts" of websites.
1.That would require people who know how to program to write a program which blocks the websites illegal parts. This means that significant amount of time from many people would have to be spent in order to write up such a program(s).
2. Most programmers are intelligent and have either a masters or Phd (rarely bachelors or simply a high school diploma). Writing this program would take away from doing something productive.
3. Programmers are not cheap. Not only will it take them time, but someone will have to pay them, right? That would cause a loss of revenue to companies, which in these times, is heavily frowned upon.
4. There would need to be people who find these illegal parts of sites, who also need time and money. Because the number of sites keeps growing, there will always be a need for people to check every single website (Youtube alone gets around 25 hours of video uploaded on it daily)
5.There is a law that states, "If there is a program, there is a bug." There will be ways to bypass the blocks and people will find these ways. It would need to be continually updated like a virus scanner/security protection. That means that there will always need to be programmers that "strengthen" the block.
Intel bought McAfee last year for 7.7 billion (dollars)
That was just for the ownership of the then current version of McAfee Security program.
If something I wrote was off then please let me know.
"What an awful waste...of money!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGySZ-KcEy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EgyX0HRSe0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sMO91tZIbo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czY-dZQsd-k&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
^^ Those links explain it all.
What do you think of what this guy is saying? Might work? I also find this bill even more disturbing with the part where he points out the British kid who the US is demanding to be expedited for linking to copy right infringing material. So this means the SOPA bill won't just effect those of us in America.
Be a HERO and Help STOP SOPA Now!! I'll tell you How! This Video that Must Be SHARED!
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