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Somewhat49
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I have a question to all believers, what's your reason for sticking to your religion? (meaning why do you do it faithfuly, if you just do it cause your parents do it then I don't think you really believe)

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partydevil
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He does say He approves.
Genesis 1:29
"I have given all green vegetation for food."


how cruel of him to give people poison-ivy for food.
Hypermnestra
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but my religion says not to, or drink, do drugs, etc(+5 trivia if you guess what I am, and sorry you do not get it if I know you already know).

LDS?

Anyway, moving on.

Study as in do one's homework.

Considering that on average, Jews make more money than any other religion(with Hindus right on their heels) I think it's safe to say that Judaism does focus a lot on education, or work ethic at least. I tried to find statistics on college enrollment by religion(there were a few about religion in general), but couldn't, so the income will just have to do.
http://pewforum.org/uploadedimages/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/income.gif
partydevil
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ah that 1 again. unaffiliated = atheists, right?

Hypermnestra
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ah that 1 again. unaffiliated = atheists, right?

Yeah, but it's also for people who just don't follow a church. They could be theists or agnostics.
Hypermnestra
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Why follow religion?
Why give a flying toss?

Umm...what?
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Why follow religion?
Why give a flying toss?


he's a troll, just flag him and continue on with the debate.

-Blade
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Considering that on average, Jews make more money than any other religion(with Hindus right on their heels) I think it's safe to say that Judaism does focus a lot on education, or work ethic at least.


As I posted earlier, in Judaism knowledge is the most precious commodity one could ever possess. If you are stupid, than you most likely won't be able to get a great job, or have a lot of opportunities.
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I can see that while more Jews earn more money that anyone else, Hindus, by and large, earn more overall. Am I right?

Jews earn 46 percent of the highest wage. But more hindus earn a better wage... so...

Why dont people state that hindus are secretly the managers of the world and are jewish lapdogs?

I personally couldnt give a munkys polkadotted rear end!

in Judaism knowledge is the most precious commodity one could ever possess


This alone seems to be the main reason to me. Jews are like the ferengi from star trek. Brought up well and taught about monies etc etc (ok, not exactly like em, but you get my point)
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This alone seems to be the main reason to me. Jews are like the ferengi from star trek. Brought up well and taught about monies etc etc (ok, not exactly like em, but you get my point)


Just like us Chinese are the Jews of the East. Hum ho.
AnaLoGMunKy
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Just like us Chinese are the Jews of the East. Hum ho.


So where ever you go, there is always someone who makes more money than others because of education of the way that they are brought up?

Try telling that to the anti-jews!
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So where ever you go, there is always someone who makes more money than others because of education of the way that they are brought up?


I would think it's a cultural thing, and for the Jews, their religion is an integral part of their culture.
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I would think it's a cultural thing, and for the Jews, their religion is an integral part of their culture.


Well, it depends on who you ask. I personally would rather stab myself than sit through services at a conservative temple (2 hours), and I prefer my 45 minute reform service. However no matter which Jew you ask, knowledge will be an central part of the religion.
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To what extent does that knowledge go however? And what form? It's not philosophical surely -- it's knowing the "facts" of what has happened in their religion I would imagine.

It's funny, in Religious Education and other classes we learn about traditions and the like whereas we don't actually learn so much about what they believe on non-cultural matters, the "facts" of their religion, you could say.

Critical thinking, a logical mindset, morality and cultural issues are all present in R.E (the first 2 for different reasons than it being &quotart of what's taught&quot but they're tainted by the views of the Religions themselves honestly... :/

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zakyman
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To what extent does that knowledge go however? And what form? It's not philosophical surely -- it's knowing the "facts" of what has happened in their religion I would imagine.


That is a difficult question, and I might be able to provide a satisfactory answer. While Jews feel that it is important to study the Torah, as a religion we are not so ignorant to ignore that not everything is God's doing. Many of us believe that along with a God, there are basic laws that govern the universe, however we do believe that we have seen those laws broken (crossing at the Red Sea).

but they're tainted by the views of the Religions themselves honestly... :/


A Reform or Conservative Jew is more likely to embrace the concepts of other forces of nature rather than God. However I have attempted explaining my views to an Orthodox Jew, and like the most religious of ANY religion, they pretty much refused my arguments.
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To what extent does that knowledge go however?


Unlike Zaky, knowledge for me just stands for my studies, i.e my education. Just take a look at old Chinese Imperial Exams and you'll know.
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