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LastKingsOrNothing
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What's your opinion on legalizing marijuana?

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Xzeno
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You get the State's protection against foreign threats (Defense), internal threats (Legal system), infrastructure (Government hospitals, roads, education). I would say it is a fair deal.
But the point is that it's an ethical issue. Taxation is all about morals. All political philosophy is. The core of it is "Is government morally justified, and if so, what is the right form of government?" Any judgement about taxation, government policy ect. is a normative judgement about what is right and wrong for a government to do, not an empirical question.

This is because political philosophy isn't about how things are, but how things ought to be. That is an ethical dilemma because, as Nemo observed, government by its nature involves coercion. Onto the topic... Xzeno out!
partydevil
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But the point is that it's an ethical issue


ethical issue or not. taxes have been around since long befor the roman empire.
and not a single government/country in history, now or future will be functioning whitout taxes.
there have been sooooooo many people in history that have cryed and protested about taxes. but the bottom line is. TAXES ARE NEEDED no matter what. (philosophy).
BoredMartian
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I think Marijuana should not be legalized. I heard some people use it to heal themselves if they get hurt or something, but otherwise, it should be illegal.

MageGrayWolf
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I think Marijuana should not be legalized.


Why shouldn't it be legal for recreational use if someone wishes to use it in such a way?
ThroatLozenge
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Man this topic has been made on this website so many times :P

Recently 2 former mayors of Vancouver, a former Premier, and the current mayor. All called for an end to prohibition of marijuana.

I hear so many arguments all the time, but in the end its quite simple.

It's much cheaper to goverment regulate and tax legal adult in home use than it is to enforce the laws that prevent it's use.

It has medicinal properties, which in itself is more than other legal substances can say.

It is not an addictive substance.

In Canada at the moment 54% believe it should remain illegal and 46% believe it should be changed. (Recent Ipsos poll)

There has been recent outcry where I live from former mayors of this provinces largest city as well as a former Premier (A Premier is the same as a governor of a state)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/bc-politics/former-vancouver-mayors-call-for-softening-of-marijuana-laws/article2246463/

http://www.rxdirect2u.com/marijuana_news/news-030716-01.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1889166,00.html

^ A bit of reading no one will do xD

ThroatLozenge
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My guess would be money. It's possible marijuana owes its extremely illegal status to companies wanting to protect their profit


Sorry for double post >.> But I had to point out this sentence from a post way back.

-Quoted from my 2nd link (in case no one reads them)


"One acre of hemp produces the same amount of cellulose fibre as 4.1 acres of trees. Trees grow back in about twenty-odd years. Hemp grows back every four months or so, and produces paper at one-quarter the cost of wood pulp (creating one-fifth of the pollution). You can also make four times more gasohol or methanol from help stalks than from corn. Hemp is actually the strongest natural fibre there is, and until the 20th century, it provided almost all the worldâs paper, clothing, textiles and rope."
sensanaty
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I heard some people use it to heal themselves if they get hurt or something, but otherwise, it should be illegal.


/facepalm/

^ A bit of reading no one will do xD


Might help if you link the articles. Article 1, Article 2

However, those are interesting articles, I advise you guys to read them.

TAXES ARE NEEDED no matter what.


They are highly needed. Imagine that you're a waitress/waiter in a café. In most countries where tourism is strong, and I believe anywhere else in the world, the café's have 2 taxes: Government taxes and worker taxes. Let's say worker tax is 9%, so, you will get 9% more from the actual bill. And the government tax is just there, it can't be evaded
CabzIndustries
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I think it doesn't matter and we have better things to worry about than pot heads...

AnaLoGMunKy
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I think it doesn't matter and we have better things to worry about than pot heads...



Many dont agree and even less would agree if the same was said about other drugs, like alcohol.
partydevil
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Trees grow back in about twenty-odd years. Hemp grows back every four months or so,


marijuana tops grow back evry 4-6 months (indoor). these tops do not have alot of fiber in it. the plant intself can grow to 6 feed in about 3 year. but never gets as big as a tree will.

I think it doesn't matter and we have better things to worry about than pot heads...


you mean something like: make it legal, let them do their **** so we don't have to care about it.
or more like: keep it illegal, why should we care about them?
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Biggest reason imo why pot isn't legal is because the drug companies are now trying to get the effects of THC in pill form and sell it in drug stores. Pharmaceutical lobbies are throwing way too much money behind it to let pot become legal and make them lose billions of dollars on pot pills.

Expect expensive pot pills in a few years.

partydevil
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drug companies are now trying to get the effects of THC in pill form and sell it in drug stores


most smokers that do it for a longer time do not use it for the effect but for the taste.

Expect expensive pot pills in a few years.


if so then it will most likely fail.
AnaLoGMunKy
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most smokers that do it for a longer time do not use it for the effect but for the taste.


Most smokers do it for the effect, not the taste.

Most drinkers do it to get drunk, the taste is the bonus.
partydevil
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Most smokers do it for the effect, not the taste.

Most drinkers do it to get drunk, the taste is the bonus.


let's call it 50/50. i and some of my friends for example do it mostly for the taste.
AnaLoGMunKy
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let's call it 50/50. i and some of my friends for example do it mostly for the taste.


I still disagree. Then people would be happy with alcohol substitutes (these do exist) or cannabis tasting herbal tobacco.

Personally I agree its a nice taste, in both cases, but I also love the effects and thats why I have taken any drug in my life. There are also drugs that dont taste of anything or actually taste pretty mingin!

I guess the fact that weed can taste so nice is a testement to its amazingness tho.

Biggest reason imo why pot isn't legal is because the drug companies are now trying to get the effects of THC in pill form and sell it in drug stores.


I just realised I had never thought of that as one of the possibilities.
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