Yes, I'm talking about a pretty key item of controversy. Now, don't say that it is right because "God is an ever loving..." (I'm not hating on Christians) So, anyway, if you're Atheist, what are your views on it? Do you still say "Under God" in the Pledge?
well in the pledge of allegiance I don't say one nation under god and my homeroom teacher doesn't care but their are some very religious people in my school who say i should believe in god I told my dad so now nobody can try to change me at my school I'm so lucky my family's atheist.
Do you all "have" to say the pledge? In all my schools it was optional, you just had to not speak/be disrespectful during it if you weren't participating.
I told my dad so now nobody can try to change me at my school
...why does telling your dad make it so no one can try to convert you?
I've found that simply not saying that you're an "atheist" saves a lot of trouble. I don't lie about it, I just skirt around the truth. For example, someone asks me what my religion is and I say I don't go to church, they assume I believe in God but that I just don't go to church, while I don't correct them and they don't try to convert me.
I'm not overly sure why so many institutions insist on having a pledge to God. We have double trouble over here because not only do we have to swear to God, particularly in the military, you must also swear to the Queen.
I agreed with neither, which is probably why I didn't last very long with the military as I refused to make pledges or swear allegiance to things I had no reason to swear to.
look people, that line (like many have said earlier) could've meant any god, and if not, then deal with it.
stephen, your principal was overzealous, nothing you can do about it. if you don't like the current pledge, just don't say any of it. it's not like you are required to do so.
That brings back memories of a close friend of ours that was an Atheist. He ran for mayor, and he would've won, except for Texas Article 1, Section 4:
he could've just said he was believed in the FSM and could've avoided the whole thing.
what did you expect, it's texas. in the U.S. majority rules. since the majority is christian, you will just have to deal with those laws, no matter how ridiculous they are(this is comming from a texas native).
what did you expect, it's texas. in the U.S. majority rules. since the majority is christian, you will just have to deal with those laws, no matter how ridiculous they are(this is comming from a texas native).
We will need changes and progress in order for this majority to be favorable. If we bowed to the will of the majority all the time, we would have made insignificant progress since our founding. Sometimes the majority has to be changed by the minority.
I'm not overly sure why so many institutions insist on having a pledge to God. We have double trouble over here because not only do we have to swear to God, particularly in the military, you must also swear to the Queen.
Isn't the Queen/King sent by God to rule or is it different in the UK? Normally, there's an option to give an Affirmation instead of an Oath if you don't want to swear to a god. Plenty of Christians don't even swear oaths believe it or not.
Yep, all I have is a handful of likewise Atheist friends that get yelled at every day. I'm trying the office now.
their are some very religious people in my school who say i should believe in god
I've always said screw everyone else and do your own thing
"My new schoolmates threatened to kick the sh*t out of me when they heard my Scottish accent. I had one week to learn to speak like them if I wanted to remain intact. Course, I didn't take any notice. No-one railroads me, and it made me all the more determined to speak my own way. That's how I got my name, you know. The Bonny Scot, see?" â" Bon Scott
I don't say it anymore, as I am far out of school. Though my believes changed in between Freshmen years and Sophomore... I simply just stopped saying it aloud. When I could get away with it, I wouldn't even do hand on chest.
