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pc123
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I think that a lot of people that are Christians need a lot of answers, so Iâm here to help out with them all the answers you have, and I will help to the best of my ability. I hope I can help.
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woody_7007
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Yes but does that mean Asherlee that God disobeyed one of his own commandments. If Joseph and Mary were married and God impregnated Mary thourhg normal methods or by devine powers he is still using Joseph's wife to concive his son which i rhink is adultery so God is a hypocrite if what you say is true which i belive it is.

Xzeno
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I'm going to have to agree with Woody.

Asherlee
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Let me first say that I am not a Christian, and there are these types of fallacies all over the place. I think I can offer you an explanation, though.

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I decided to just give you this little wikipedia tid-bit:

The Immaculate Conception is, according to Roman Catholic dogma, the conception of Mary, the mother of Jesus without any stain of original sin, in her mother's womb: the dogma thus says that, from the first moment of her existence, she was preserved by God from the lack of sanctifying grace that afflicts mankind, and that she was instead filled with divine grace. It is further believed that she lived a life completely free from sin.[1] in the words of Pope Pius XII in Mystici Corporis , "she was free from any personal or hereditary sin" [2] Her immaculate conception in the womb of her mother, by normal sexual intercourse (Christian tradition identifies her parents as Sts. Joachim and Anne), should not be confused with the doctrine of the virginal conception of her son Jesus.
woody_7007
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Ok thanks. I just think it is ironic that even though God doesnt actualy do the business at the end of the day he still impregnates another man's wife. I can see why the bible says there was no sin involved etc but if he had to impregnate someone couldnt it have been a single woman. It would have been just the same in terms of a miracle if she was a virgin.

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What I find awesome is that the Immaculate Conception or at least the concept is paralleled throughout mythology by various other cultures!

Asherlee
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I know! There are so many connections like that. I really don't think there is much originality to Christianity. So much of it is mirrored from so many other religions, especially the awesome Pagans.

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I htink it is because even tho the act of sex is a natural thing it is still viewed that it is a little sinful so they try and mask that by having their chosen prophet/God to be conceived wthout sex taking place. That is what i think anyway.

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I think it is sad that sex is view that way. It is such a gift we have as humans. It is one of the few sensations that we can do and get a natural high. But noooooo! Religion has GOT to deem it sinful.

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Well it is only sinful if you dont conceive apparently. Its better to have a baby when you are 16 without using a condom or get AIDS from sex and possibly die than having something that is neither sinfull or wrong accoding to some people it is crazy.

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Oh, yes. I forgot about that little part. That having sex for pleasure is bad. Religion is just stupid...

woody_7007
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Well no all of it is. My mum is from a tiny village in Greece and her and her entire family are heavily religious so i have discussions with them about it all the time. Lots of the morals to do ith religion are admirable but for me and this is not just to do with Christianity but all religions, that they need to modernize. Like we said about the stories. They cannot expect people in this day and age to belive them for what they are literally. Ideals way back when are different from what they are now. I htink there should be an edited version of the bible more compatable with modern times. It would certainly bring in more belivers i am sure especially in developed countries where atheism is prvalent so it would be good for religion and those that follow it as they would lead better lives. However it would not sway me. As an airforce pilot it is highly likely that i will have to kill people in my future career and so according to God i am going to Hell so i myslef am a firm atheist.

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@Asherlee- I was recently talking to a Catholic who told me they though condoms and masturbating were wrong because it kills sperm, "little humans." However, about ten million "little humans" are released per ejaculation, so even if you do "the way God wants" it only one can fertilize and thus about ten million "little humans" will still die. Does this also mean it is wrong for a woman to have a period, all of her eggs, must be fertilized otherwise, it is murder? Those sexist Catholics.

woody_7007
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I myself am not a big fan of many of catholicisms beleifs. Their beleif that sex not for procreation is wrong causes many problems. For example it contributes to the AIDS problems in Africa. It causes their celibate priests to beome paedophiles in some cases because celibacy is not normal and it causes great distress for women who want to have abortions and are not able to because of beleifs even though the woman might not be ready to have a child.

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@necromancer
I lol'd at that...haha...i've never heard that. Ridiculous...

@woody
Killing for your country in a war isn't a sin...God lead the jews into war many times in the OT...and the bible does pertain to modern times, if you take it literally it won't and there are some things in there that can't possibly pertain to modern times...but the basic principles can still be followed. And also, sex isn't bad if your married...but pre-marital sex is sinful.

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However, about ten million "little humans" are released per ejaculation, so even if you do "the way God wants" it only one can fertilize and thus about ten million "little humans" will still die. Does this also mean it is wrong for a woman to have a period, all of her eggs, must be fertilized otherwise, it is murder?


I know eh! My first question is "when did notions of sinfulness first become associated with sex?"

@ eyetwitch:

Many would find your use of the OT and claiming that it in itself is applicable to modern times contentious especially as it directly contradicts modern interpretations of the New Testament.

So with this in mind...here's my second question: "how relevant is the Old Testament to contemporary life and in what ways?"
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