Again, if you're arguing with genetic constance, it all starts with the zygote, then the egg, then the chicken. So out of the two in question, the egg.
Or think of this: what is first, the embryo or the human? The only difference with chicken is that the unborn is already out of the mother and protected by a calcite shell.
Problem solved everyone. Kudos to this guy. His argument wraps up everything. Wow, who'd have thought? Yep, the egg came first. Reason? It's breakfast. Mod can lock this thread now.
i would have to say (not using bible wise)that the chiken came first here is how it went.
remember the ugly ducking story well think of it as the ugly bird(now called the chiken)it had a mutation in its cells or sumthin and became chiken.then chiken meet up with desparate duck or sumthing and that is where we know the rest.
Chicken, because everything originally evolved from bacteria. The species all reproduce, otherwise they would die off. So each adapted to be mammal, bird, reptial, amphibion, or fish. The end. :P
Dudes. Every chicken has been an egg once. They're one individual at different stages. So, isn't it kinda dumb to say the chicken was first? Seriously now.
The chicken because there had to be a chicken in order for the egg to be created. The first chicken came about via evolution from a common ancestor and then they had eggs to reproduce. Seriously how didn't you know that? Didn't you go to school?
The chicken because there had to be a chicken in order for the egg to be created. The first chicken came about via evolution from a common ancestor and then they had eggs to reproduce. Seriously how didn't you know that? Didn't you go to school?
You're implying two things:
-that the first chicken didn't hatch from an egg. But the egg isn't an apomorphy of the chicken, all their ancestors already laid eggs
-that the egg from which the first chicken hatched isn't a chicken egg. This makes no sense, an individual doesn't switch species during development.
The egg of the first chicken had to be the first chicken egg. The bird that laid said egg is simply behind the virtual line we draw between chicken and their ancestor.
-that the first chicken didn't hatch from an egg. But the egg isn't an apomorphy of the chicken, all their ancestors already laid eggs
-that the egg from which the first chicken hatched isn't a chicken egg. This makes no sense, an individual doesn't switch species during development.
The egg of the first chicken had to be the first chicken egg. The bird that laid said egg is simply behind the virtual line we draw between chicken and their ancestor.
The egg came first, then the chicken, then the chicken egg. Deformations in animals cause them to pass them onto their offspring if the deformation is of advantage to survival. They're the ones that get to pass on their genes. This is called Natural Selection. Then they get to produce a new species. Therefore the chicken was a change of species from a common ancestor to form the chicken from the common ancestor. Therefore there is common ancestor egg (half chicken half previous evolutionary bird), then chicken. Then the chicken produces more offspring and then you have normal chickens. Eventually we captured them and bred them and got eggs from them and ate them. But still, you get the general idea...
The chicken couldn't have been born if no animal layed a chicken egg. The egg could have been made by two sorta snake-like animals making the egg. Therefore the chicken hacthes out of the egg and so the egg came first!
Um... I really have no idea. I think God made the animals(All who argue shall be ignored) but he could have made the egg or the chicken first...so I have no idea.
The egg came first, then the chicken, then the chicken egg.
What I mean is, the egg from which the chicken hatched, IS the chicken. As I said earlier, arguing with genetic constance we have the zygote, then egg, then chicken. All one individual. Changes in an individuals from, let's say, the egg to the chicken, don't affect the offsprings of said chicken unless the gonads are affected. So the genetic material of the chicken had to be already in the embryo in the egg. Egg that is a chicken, coming from naturally selected non-chicken parents.
I'm not sure but maybe we've just been arguing about different things. Hope I made myself clear now.
