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macfan1
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Your thoughts on ILLEGAL immigration. Any solutions? I think it is wrong.

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loco5
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Why is it wrong? What are they doing to hurt you? Did they murder your family? Take that below minimum wage strawberry picking job you wanted?

HahiHa
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HahiHa
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Any solutions?

I dunno. What about you?

I think it is wrong.

Could you also give a reason for that?

I think that yes, it is problematic if the country can't handle it reasonably; it then jams certain services and starts to cause problems, immigrants are not handled correctly, thus start to get criminal which only makes more trouble. However, far from me to pin illegal immigrants as the bad guys. Often they don't have much of a choice. Most often it's because their own country has problems, and I don't see a way to handle it that is 100% correct for both involved parties.
macfan1
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Why are these violent, non citezens VIP's? eg. going to the emergency room for a checkup, free everything paid by taxes from law abiding citizens. That isn't right.

Possible solution:
SWAT door to door raids, any illegal found, deport them.

deathbewithyou
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Instead of deporting them the government makes them US citizens. I think thats wrong especialy when the legals worked so hard to come here. Many illegals have done crime in America. They have caused too many problems that the government won't fix. The government makes new laws that don't help us at all, instead they make things worse. Rant, rant, rant.

EmperorPalpatine
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However, far from me to pin illegal immigrants as the bad guys.

If they're upstanding people, why don't they immigrate legally instead?
partydevil
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why don't they immigrate legally instead


the policy (in most countrys dunno if it's in your aswell) for legal immigrates is that the have to be in danger in their own country.

some1 is not allowed to immigrate because he needs work. therefor are workvisa's. these cost money. but the people that need money for food can't pay the visa. so they got left whit 2 options.
1 stay in the country they are. and never have chanch for a beter life.
or try to get in the country illegal. wich is much cheaper and the worst that can happen to them is that they get send back. and try again. what they do is not illegal in their own country (there is no such thing as illegal emigration)

so you guys can keep sending them back. but they will also come back again to you
zakyman
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the policy (in most countrys dunno if it's in your aswell) for legal immigrates is that the have to be in danger in their own country.


not for the US. you can immigrate and attempt to get a green card for any reason really. you just have to renounce your citizenship to your previous country of residence
partydevil
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you just have to renounce your citizenship to your previous country of residence


my nephew had a new girlfriend from the usa (meeted in i-net) and he wanted to move to the usa and get a green card. befor he was alowed to start the procedure to get 1, he 1st had to live 5 year in the usa.
this whole 5 year he was not alowed to get schooling or work. he had to live on the costs of his girlfriend for 5 year if they wanted to live in the usa.
so instead they came to the netherlands and there was no real problem she had a job whitin 5 weeks.

legal immigration into the usa is prety hard because it's already prety dense in the populair areas.
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my nephew had a new girlfriend from the usa (meeted in i-net) and he wanted to move to the usa and get a green card. befor he was alowed to start the procedure to get 1, he 1st had to live 5 year in the usa.
this whole 5 year he was not alowed to get schooling or work. he had to live on the costs of his girlfriend for 5 year if they wanted to live in the usa.
so instead they came to the netherlands and there was no real problem she had a job whitin 5 weeks.

This is why I consider it unfair that illegals can get that before the legal immigrants can. We really need the (useless people of what we call) government to fix our laws. The laws are getting more and more rediculous.
deathbewithyou
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The laws are getting more and more rediculous.

Sorry, rediculous was an understatement.
EmperorPalpatine
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you just have to renounce your citizenship to your previous country of residence

Dual citizenship is allowed. You don't need to renounce anything unless you want to, just agree to be loyal and follow the laws.
MoonFairy
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Possible solution:
SWAT door to door raids, any illegal found, deport them.

Seriously? Do you realize how silly this is? Door to door raids in suburbia? You would upset thousands more citizens than find a handful of illegal immigrants in each city.
If they're upstanding people, why don't they immigrate legally instead?

As it's been said, it's pretty difficult to do so because it takes a long amount of time. Costs money that some people might not have, and they need a job to get the money, so they go to America to get it.
not for the US. you can immigrate and attempt to get a green card for any reason really. you just have to renounce your citizenship to your previous country of residence

Well you could get a Visa, which still takes a while. Sometimes to get a green card you have to get a visa in the first place, and you can't get your green card until you get the visa secured. Which, again, can take a considerable amount of time. This could be problematic for a family or people that need to get out of a troubled country, fast.

This is why I consider it unfair that illegals can get that before the legal immigrants can. We really need the (useless people of what we call) government to fix our laws. The laws are getting more and more rediculous.

Well DHS doesn't exactly have the money to deport every alien they find. And even then, the country might not take the illegal immigrant back unless they find a certain number of them. Even if you caught them, you would have to wait.
And if you're going to use the word ridiculous, twice even to make a spam post, please use spell check or get a dictionary.

It's a bit hard to change laws regarding immigration here, we are the melting pot. Land of the free, American Dreams, etc. You're going to piss off someone when you change law, and if you don't, you're going to piss off someone there. While I admit there should be more done, if you want to call them useless, feel free to step up and immerse yourself in politics.
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Personally, I think that the whole system needs to be changed. America was founded by immigrants and foreigners and, in my opinion, should stay that way. We are a nation of cultural diversity and that is part of what makes us so unique. I think that immigration should be made easier, less expensive, and more nuanced to help people come here. As far as illegal immigration, however, I believe that it is wrong (which is why I believe that the system needs to be changed). Because not only is it that illegals take away job opportunities (which Americans may not even want anyway), but the immigrant laborers may also have their work exploited which is not right either. I also believe that the traffickers, drug dealers, and 'lazy' people who don't wish to better this nation or even have the intent to harm it do not deserve to live in it. I go to a high school that is more than 50%-60% Latin American. I have met very nice and intelligent Mexican students and am friends with many of them. However, there are those who slack in school, abuse drugs, gangbang, and are in general not very nice people. In short, I believe that the process of immigration needs to be changed so that people with good intentions have no reason to immigrate illegally and people who live here have no reason to hate people for also wanting to live in America.

partydevil
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a family or people that need to get out of a troubled country, fast.


dunno about usa but we have some sort of fast immigration for them. wich is basicly staking them in buildings and later check out whit the EU where to house them and actualy immigrate.

i guess usa could do the same whit usa being EU and the different states being the different EU country's
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I think that immigration should be made easier, less expensive, and more nuanced to help people come here.


Tell that to every jobless American out there.
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