So, barring the slightly generalizing and sexist title, this is a thread to discuss, academically of course, porn, and everything about the porn industry in relation to society, to the individual, yada yada. Yes, I know it's completely sexist for females who watch porn to call it a male thing, but heck.
Right, so what do you guys think about porn? Is it immoral? Does morality even play a part in this debate? Is it good, bad, or just a thing? Healthy, not healthy? Art, not art?
Carry on, I'll just be by the side watching, *voyeur* and occasionally jumping in for some action.
But wait... Xzeno, don't you think that the reason there is so much porn where women are degraded is because there are a lot of men who are into domination sex? I mean, I get that this mostly happens to women, but isn't the average porn watcher usally male? Also, about the money, are you sure there are no other options at all? I would think there aren't too many who really can do nothing but have sex on camara. And then, if we do change porn (which may be difficult considering all the men and women who enjoy domination of a woman), then it will affect both the people who like to watch it, and the people who like to perform it on camara.
Could another solution be instead a foundation that helps people who want to leave the porn industry able to get jobs in other places without hassel. Or to change how society views porn so that having a former pornstar as a teacher doesn't sound like an insane idea to most people.
Could another solution be instead a foundation that helps people who want to leave the porn industry able to get jobs in other places without hassel. Or to change how society views porn so that having a former pornstar as a teacher doesn't sound like an insane idea to most people.
I have to agree here, most people do see porn as such a bad industry when really i guess in some cases it helps. But honestly the way society is shaped now days, makes it harder for people to accept things like pornstars and people who preform sex on camera. And people who want out of it, well its not as easy as i want out. So like Dair5 said, changing the way society veiws porn is probably the better solution here.
its unhealthy thats for sure but not immoral people have the right to do what the hell they want to for money but im not saying its the best job in the world but in a way it has gotten out of hand sometimes because people have different fedishes some are pretty **** weird like torturing and pain that is wrong il be honest because if theres more of that around people will believe thats normal and more **** would occur so i think we should censor some of the sick crap on the internet but not all
its unhealthy thats for sure but not immoral people have the right to do what the hell they want to for money but im not saying its the best job in the world but in a way it has gotten out of hand sometimes because people have different fedishes some are pretty **** weird like torturing and pain that is wrong il be honest because if theres more of that around people will believe thats normal and more **** would occur so i think we should censor some of the sick crap on the internet but not all
i doubt that. i doubt that people who dont share that fetish would play in a porn thats about that fetish. i also think that you are born with fetishes (And if you arent then im pretty sure you cant change them). weather people will watch porn or not people will still use their fetishes just not behind a camera.
Xzeno I'm not sure I follow your point, pornography is a business, a business adapts to what it's consumers demand, which in this case seems to be fetish pornography featuring domination. Unless you were going somewhere else with this?
More to the point, your post contains a bevy of statements that are presented to be facts, but there is no proof. And I hardly expect you to have personal experience with the pornographic industry. (Although considering this is the internet one can hardly take your word on that.)
pornography is a business, a business adapts to what it's consumers demand
just because business adapts to demands doesnt make those demands right.. The success of a business should never come at the cost of its employees. In this case, thousands of women are suffering so that the porn industry can make money
Suffering how? They are not forced to take part in pornography, while they may be forced into the industry in some areas of the world, this shouldn't be the case for any nation with an established welfare system. Especially if that's what's causing them to become a part of the industry.
In this case, thousands of women are suffering so that the porn industry can make money
You know that there is amateur porn too, right? It isn't all one big capitalist scheme; there are plenty of people who film themselves and submit it online so others can... enjoy it. They don't get paid or anything.
just because business adapts to demands doesnt make those demands right.. The success of a business should never come at the cost of its employees. In this case, thousands of women are suffering so that the porn industry can make money
...Suffering? I would assume that most of them are getting paid, are voluntarily doing the job, and that is it basically like any other job. It would require the same amount of "Suffering" as any other job. What exactly is suffering about them?
And on another topic, what would you say if no human was involved int he porn? Would you be ok with it then?
While the question wasn't directed at me, I must confess that I am completely in opposition to bestiality, unless the animal in question happens to be a sentient creature able to let it's consent be known.
While the question wasn't directed at me, I must confess that I am completely in opposition to bestiality, unless the animal in question happens to be a sentient creature able to let it's consent be known.
Was...That an answer to my question?
Well...That is good to know. I kind of meant more along the lines of hentia, romance books and stories, and things that are about human sex without using any models....
.....I suppose you could read my question like that, but I didn't mean bestiality when I wrote it...
So, barring the slightly generalizing and sexist title, this is a thread to discuss, academically of course, porn, and everything about the porn industry in relation to society, to the individual, yada yada. Yes, I know it's completely sexist for females who watch porn to call it a male thing, but heck.
Right, so what do you guys think about porn? Is it immoral? Does morality even play a part in this debate? Is it good, bad, or just a thing? Healthy, not healthy? Art, not art?
Very sexist to believe it's a male thing, yes. I know more than enough women who really enjoy it. And although it's directed at males, i'm going to go on ahead and throw in my thoughts :P.
I think porn originally was a beautiful art. Obviously it has never offered the best plot a short film could have, but videos used to be a lot more emotive than they are now. I think the pornography business has boomed beyond anyone's expectations. I mean, porn, once taboo, is now one of the most common things searched for on the internet.
For the most part i don't think it's immoral to watch porn in general. Whatever turns you on i guess. The only problem is there is a lot of questionable material out there, easily available. For instance, a man just a few years older than me was arrested a few streets away from me last week due to the "Highly explicit child pornography" material found on his laptop. Now that, my friends, is disgusting.
Healthy Versus Unhealthy? Well it can be both. Healthy to explore new areas i guess. I know from friends, videos have actually taught them about their own and the opposite genders body. I guess that's a plus. Unhealthy in the sense people can watch it, non stop and become slightly obsessed with it.
Just to throw in after a long enough comment - I do not watch porn. As aforementioned, not because i think there's anything wrong with it, but as a lesbian, the material just isn't all that sexy.
lol i understood your question in the exact same way kyou did XD
i personally have nothing against bestiality as long as the animal agrees (which is difficult to know but when you do know i really dont care). if you force an animal then its pretty much the same as kidnapping a human and film it. as for romance, stories, and all the other things. i think those are even better then porn since alongside sex there are other things that are shown (correct me if im wrong. i really dont know alot about these things) that raise the quality of the story, cartoon, etc.
still, im sure that porn with an actual story exist. not going to check and make sure about this claim though XD
For the most part i don't think it's immoral to watch porn in general. Whatever turns you on i guess. The only problem is there is a lot of questionable material out there, easily available. For instance, a man just a few years older than me was arrested a few streets away from me last week due to the "Highly explicit child pornography" material found on his laptop. Now that, my friends, is disgusting.
this might shock some people but i dont think that guy deserved being punished. of course im against sex with children and thats out of the question but the person who did the act with the child should get punished. im sure that we can all agree that we have different likes and dislikes. lets take someone who finds children sexually attractive. he cant control that, thats a reaction he feels in his body. he shouldnt be considered a bad person for feeling this way. i also dont think he should be considered a bad person for having fantasies and imagining situations like that either. same goes for what he watched online. he didnt hurt anyone. of course when it comes to him looking for a child to r ape thats when he crosses the line. what if the material wasnt porn and was an imaginary story or a drawn pic?
Healthy Versus Unhealthy? Well it can be both. Healthy to explore new areas i guess. I know from friends, videos have actually taught them about their own and the opposite genders body. I guess that's a plus. Unhealthy in the sense people can watch it, non stop and become slightly obsessed with it.
i fully agree. some people just dont get "the talk" from parents or at school and i think this is a really good way for a person to learn about himself and what exists in the world.
Just to throw in after a long enough comment - I do not watch porn. As aforementioned, not because i think there's anything wrong with it, but as a lesbian, the material just isn't all that sexy.
lesbian porn doesnt exist? i thought everything exists on the internet. or did you mean the lesbian porn isnt good?
