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Is homosexuality right or wrong?

Posted Mar 17, '12 at 9:35pm

dair5

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But is it statistically significant? This is the question you�re not answering. And if you are not going to going to �waste your time� finding proper sources, why point me to an improper one?


Oh okay. Here you go.

But my larger point earlier was that we as humans do have consciences and are not slaves to our instincts. This is what separates up from animals. Including the Bonobo!


Like the link said, these animals are intelligent, sensitive, emotional, and very close to humans. They aren't pure instinct. Also, you haven't proven that homosexuality is wrong yet, so why should our conscience tell us it's wrong? Mine doesn't.
 

Posted Mar 17, '12 at 9:36pm

Avorne

Avorne

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So, we've established that homosexuality is a natural behaviour that's found in many species, including human beings.

Any other reason why you disapprove of homosexuality? For the sake of good argument, I propose that we keep religious texts out of this, because the thread will just end up going in circles if we bring that stuff into it.

 

Posted Mar 17, '12 at 9:36pm

toemas

toemas

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âSpittle-drenched lions to save our livesâ umm⦠I think anything would run away. But I could also choose not to run and shoot it with my rifle. And no and we donât have to breed we can choose to be homosexuals!
Interesting discussion, I have to go but I will research and post some things later

 

Posted Mar 17, '12 at 9:42pm

314d1

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�Spittle-drenched lions to save our lives� umm� I think anything would run away. But I could also choose not to run and shoot it with my rifle. And no and we don�t have to breed we can choose to be homosexuals!


Wait, you can choose to be homosexual? Why don't you try it for us, right now? Just be homosexual for a second, I am sure your god will forgive you...

Interesting discussion, I have to go but I will research and post some things later


Actual research, or looking at what other people say and taking their opinion?
 

Posted Mar 17, '12 at 9:42pm

Freakenstein

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I think anything would run away.


Also known as INSTINCT.

But I could also choose not to run and shoot it with my rifle


You're a funny man.

And no and we don't have to breed we can choose to be homosexuals!


1)We do not choose to be homosexuals.
2)You don't *have* to breed the same as you don't have to run away from a scary lion. One side, you don't contribute to the continued existence of your species, the other side, you lose your life from not running away from a superior predator.
 

Posted Mar 17, '12 at 10:18pm

partydevil

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And no and we don't have to breed we can choose to be homosexuals!


me and my wife choose to not breed a bay. does that make us homosexual?
guess not
 

Posted Mar 18, '12 at 1:14am

thebluerabbit

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�Spittle-drenched lions to save our lives� umm� I think anything would run away. But I could also choose not to run and shoot it with my rifle. And no and we don�t have to breed we can choose to be homosexuals!
Interesting discussion, I have to go but I will research and post some things later


ok first of all, you dont choose it. second, homosexuals can have sex with the other gender while hetrosexuals can have sex with the same gender (thats their decision and to accept it of course).

you havnt answered the most important question: why is it wrong?

what makes something wrong? if you cant answer that your whole opinion has no point. what is natural? having red hair and green eyes is very rare. does it make it unnatural and wrong? natural=/=right. when judging weather something is natural or not in humans all you can do is compare them to animals. compared ti animals its completely natural. if you dont compare us to animals then how do you know its unnatural if you have nothing to compare too. there are many different kinds of minorities and pretty much every each and one of us is unnatural in a way.

all you just did was TRYING to fight our arguments but you couldnt give even one argument of yours that made sense.
 

Posted Mar 18, '12 at 3:42am

MageGrayWolf

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Because if you look at human anatomy homosexuality does not really line up if you know what I�m saying


No I don't know what you're saying, explain.

And no and we don't have to breed we can choose to be homosexuals!


The choice to reproduce or not is of no consequence to one's sexual preferences. This almost sounds like a straw man fallacy.

Interesting discussion, I have to go but I will research and post some things later


When you say "research" do you mean pulling crap off homophobic religious sites?
 

Posted Mar 18, '12 at 5:34am

HahiHa

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The others have shown the significance of various sexual behaviour in bonobos, including homosexuality. Now let me tell you they very well can tell male from female apart, so there's no reason to think they're stupid.
They don't have a soul. So? We don't either. The concept of soul is your way to explain consciousness, and they have a consciousness too.
Homosexual behaviour is common among many other animals, in deep-sea squids it's probably even part of the most successful sexual strategy: because encounters are much more rare, and visibility very low, the males clutch their sperm patches on every squid they encounter, making no difference between male or female, so they don't risk to miss a female^^

As has been said, homosexuals didn't choose to be so, as much as you didn't choose to be heterosexual. It's all part of a certain variance in sexual orientations. I mean I even heard about people lately who are sexually attracted by objects... but really, are they doing any harm? Cannot two individuals be happy together independent of their gender? What is gender anyway, how d'you define that? It's not so easy, really; genitals are only a small part of one's gender. We should accept such variations instead of discriminating them on no basis and trying to enforce a 'natural state' that is anything but natural. I think we should actually make a line where sexual behaviours can actually harm other people, like paedophiles. But homosexuals don't harm anyone.

 

Posted Mar 18, '12 at 11:55am

sensanaty

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1,145 posts

When you say "research" do you mean pulling crap off homophobic religious sites?


Why is R ape censored, but crap isn't?
Anyways, that's where most people get they're "sources" these days, sadly.

What percentage of the monkey population is actually performs these acts? And where are you getting your info?


Not really monkeys, but my (male) dog was once... Sexually assaulted by another (male) dog.

Bonabos may practice homosexual but they are animals they have no conscience or soul just an instinctive sex drive and are probably to dumb to tell the deference.


Humans are animals. It's just our brains are more evolved than those of other animals. Oh, and it's difference. Even monkeys know how to spell that.

I�m saying that they don�t have the brains or a conscience to know its wrong


Why is it wrong? Imagine if you were homosexual, and every single Christian said "Ohh unnatural!" just because you prefer having sex with the person of the same sex. And also, animals need brains to survive. And they don't need a conscience to stay alive and reproduce, it's an instinct.
 
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