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TheMostManlyMan
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personally i can't stand quickscoping unless they just happen to have a sniper out when someone comes around or something like that, they have almost ruined the multiplayer on MW2 DOWN WITH QUICKSCOPERS

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pickpocket
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in mw2 their was a lot to counter quick scoping.
comando for one. most quick scoping is done at close-ish range, so someone using comando can kill them easily. also, the sniper used is usually the intervention. look at it, its bolt action. if the sniper misses then the guy with the smg with tear him to shreds. thats what happens in mw3 at least. sorry if its unacurate information, i havent played mw2 or cod4 in some time. i tried mw2 a while ago and their were noob tubers and hackers everywhere, but thats another discusion. i personally find quick scoping difficult, my main problem being that i dont stand still when i shoot. with smgs and assult rifles, i move forwards, backwards and side to side while shooting a lot of the time, but while quickscoping i cant do that D: i mean, i know how to do it but its difficult to really master it. i honeslty do find quick scopers out their annoying because they keep killing me, but then again, anyone who kills me annoys me. i say that their is nothing wrong with quickscoping. who cares if its un realistic? its just a video game after all.

TheMostManlyMan
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You're pathetically childish attempting to belittle someone on a forum that I'd imagine is for mature discussion.
no now that i think about it what i said wasn't childish, you saying that i was being childish by stating a fact that you clearly didn't like is probably the most childish post on this thread. and i dare you to give me one thing more n00bish(besides modding) than running around getting kills all thanks to aim-assist
TheMostManlyMan
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in mw2 their was a lot to counter quick scoping.
comando for one
the comando is in black ops not MW2 feel free to explain what gun you're really talking about
GhostOfMatrix
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the comando is in black ops not MW2 feel free to explain what gun you're really talking about

There's a perk called commando in MW2.
badbad200000
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i lik it but sometimes it can be annoying

Selrahcthewise
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Love and hate em love them when they are on your team in team death-match. I hate when i just run past a certain point and just go around the corner and get picked off by a quick scoper

Highfire
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no now that i think about it what i said wasn't childish

Yes it was.

you saying that i was being childish by stating a fact that you clearly didn't like

It's not a fact, the idea of requiring aim-assist is not valid, and you directed it at a specific person, even when you didn't know in order to belittle him. Hence, a pathetically childish attempt.

is probably the most childish post on this thread.

It would've been hypocritical. Not listening would've been childish. But I did, and you clearly can't even read your own arguments properly if you considered what you just said as "fact".

and i dare you to give me one thing more n00bish(besides modding) than running around getting kills all thanks to aim-assist

Nothing. Nothing I consider is noobish. If you wanted me to be like a little generic CoD fanboy, but with at least semi-intelligent arguments.

"FLANKGIN ISN IOOBISH MN ABECAUSE I CCNA'T TURN AROUND TO ONWAZ THEM."

You tried to change the argument. You're wrong to try and do that. You couldn't make the idea that it WAS noobish, because it's an element of the game and you're perfectly welcome to do whatever is necessary to win within the confides of the game. So, you either knew I was this logical or you knew on a different level that the only thing I'd consider noobish (or yourself beyond aim assist) was modding, because that is NOT the confides of the game.

Even then, I don't know enough about Turtle-Beach headsets and quick-trigger controllers to know whether or not they're illegal or allowed. Even so, I wouldn't consider them nooby.

So congratulations, furthermore in not even knowing the games you like over the person who feels massive disdain for them. Commando is in MW2. -.-

If you're going to confront me, don't create a strawman argument and then switch topics in order to avoid the fact you did it to berate a guy. Poorly, I might add.

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Somewhat49
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only thing I'd consider noobish (or yourself beyond aim assist) was modding

I like how alot of time people belittle hackers and modders, I have to ask you, Have you ever tried modding or hacking? Because it's quite hard and even though they might not excell at an fps game which really sucks in the first place, they aquired the skill of writing code for making the hacks or mods and understanding things you probably never think about.
Highfire
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Hence why I wouldn't call it noobish. But one thing I do think about, Somewhat49, is morality. They kind of fail at that if they hack a game on multiplayer, as it's afflicting other people with the issue and against the ToU of the company, oftentimes. Unless it's actual modding -- which I can very much respect.

Although coding and etc is quite intricate, I've never tried it. . . from what I understand it's understanding the rules, and using logic to best apply them. Kind of like Maths, or understanding a language when you want to create sentences.

I wouldn't belittle them, but I wouldn't deem them at the same level or superior, because I deem morality at the highest value and clearly they've failed that.
In terms of gaming, that would be the case. It's difficult to create an objective 'rating' for how moral a person is, and thus even if they hack they could have perfectly fair / relevent / valid views on other things.

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TheMostManlyMan
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Even then, I don't know enough about Turtle-Beach headsets and quick-trigger controllers to know whether or not they're illegal or allowed
yes they are illegal my friend found somewhere that they will ban you from Xbox live for 3,000 years lol

I like how alot of time people belittle hackers and modders, I have to ask you, Have you ever tried modding or hacking? Because it's quite hard and even though they might not excell at an fps game which really sucks in the first place, they aquired the skill of writing code for making the hacks or mods and understanding things you probably never think about.
wow they excel in doing illegal things we should throw them a celebration party. they learn to hack that way they can go around with limitless health killing and ticking off allot of other people, would you like to reconsider what you just posted
's not a fact, the idea of requiring aim-assist is not valid
really now you think so? well allot of times when people quickscope they can be aiming about 2 feet away and get an instant headshot fine that may not be aim-assist it's the game's own little cheat for an aimbot and i thought you were talking about the gun camando not the perk so sorry to offend you and i was not trying to change the subject, perhaps you were
and now for my favorite part of that last stupid post of yours
Nothing. Nothing I consider is noobish. If you wanted me to be like a little generic CoD fanboy, but with at least semi-intelligent arguments.

"FLANKGIN ISN IOOBISH MN ABECAUSE I CCNA'T TURN AROUND TO ONWAZ THEM."
and you said i was childish!
If you're going to confront me, don't create a strawman argument and then switch topics in order to avoid the fact you did it to berate a guy. Poorly, I might add.
fine then you can go back to talking about quickscoping like you i suggested i wasn't the one trying to change the subject with all of this
So congratulations, furthermore in not even knowing the games you like over the person who feels massive disdain for them. Commando is in MW2. -.-
stuff oh and i didn't realize it was you who posted about comando i was actually wanted to know what you were talking about when you said comando because i thought you were talking about the black ops gun, with all that you've been accusing me of you might as well say that i don't agree with you because i'm racist have fun in that auto-aiming one-shot-one-kill land i prefer to play in more normal people friendly environment
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yes they are illegal my friend found somewhere that they will ban you from Xbox live for 3,000 years

They can't ban you from Xbox Live if it's something in game, they can only ban you from the game. And you can use headsets and modded controllers if you want. I'm pretty sure using a modded controller is frowned upon, but they can't prove you're using one. I've seen people with very fast trigger fingers equivalent to the fire rate of a modded controller.
TheMostManlyMan
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ok well maybe not the controller so much as just modding the game then XBOX bans you not the game right so i was typing this when i accidentally refreshed the page or something and it went something like...

i didn't even see that last post when i wrote the other post. let's kick things off with a bang.

Unless it's actual modding -- which I can very much respect.
really you respect modding, you really respect modding to me you're almost as bad as one of the modders so since you clearly see modders as being higher than you in the gaming totem pole why don't you go mod your Xbox or whatever system you have so that there's no aim-assist whatsoever and try quickscoping to see how well you can quickscope without aim-assist and as a plus for you, you would be one of the glorious modders. and allow me to re-phrase the last sentance of my last post what i meant was you can go play in your land of modding and one-shot-one-kill quickscopers, but i prefer to play in a more normal gamer friendly environment with everything the way it should be,
and against the ToU of the company, oftentimes
when was the last time(besides maybe battlefield and a few other games perhaps) was the last time you had to agree to the terms of use for the game, exactly, you agree to the terms of use for the console, maybe the ToU for a game or 2 but it's the console maker not the game so modding is always a bad thing with consoles
I wouldn't belittle them
why not, they're doing something illegal the very least you can do is report them. well you might not have noticed or might not have wanted me to notice but that last post of your didn't have anything to do with quickscopers like you claimed to want to get back to, so here's your chance oh you of little logic
Highfire
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found somewhere that they will ban you from Xbox live for 3,000 years lol

Well, sounds reliable. xD

I'm pretty sure using a modded controller is frowned upon, but they can't prove you're using one.

If it's frowned upon it doesn't matter -- camping and grenade launchers are frowned upon. The question is if they're actually condoned.

wow they excel in doing illegal things we should throw them a celebration party.

Anonymous is a group that does illegal things, yet they receive lots of support - I support them. Because not always can you carry out or do something that follows the restrictions the law has, even if it's acceptable in your moral code. Their reasons have been valid, as well.

well allot of times when people quickscope they can be aiming about 2 feet away

Two feet is a small distance.
And you seemed to miss the point. It's within the confides of the game that is allowed, by the game and by the developers -- the people using it are using it to be more effective. The developers and the inclusion of Aim-assist is the problem. I could scream "noob" at most, nearly all CoD players for their inadequate strategies.

The things I've proposed are of higher quality than anything I've heard from most CoD players, and I don't even play the game. I don't even think it can be balanced all that well for the now, because of the rash inclusion of so many game features.

it's the game's own little cheat for an aimbot

Except it's not illegal and it's not a cheat. Your comparison is invalid on these premises.

and i thought you were talking about the gun camando not the perk so sorry to offend you

How on earth would having the gun "Commando" have made a difference? You shot up a point without even knowing what was being talked about.

and i was not trying to change the subject,

That goes along with the misunderstanding, without saying.

perhaps you were

How would I have changed the subject, and how would that of helped?

and you said i was childish!

Emulation of idiocy is hard to come by, mostly because most people don't want it.
It's an accurate representation of a substantial amount of CoD players' reasoning.

I'm not going to stand here and defend why I behaved like an idiot. Sure, maybe it was childish. The point I was making is there, flanking could be considered nooby just like grenade launchers and etc. The presentation? A little sub-point.

However yours was childish because the point was just dull, and unnecessary. You asked me a question, I replied in a CoD-player fashion because that's the only way I could give you an answer that was not "nothing", given the restrictions you gave me. Happy?

fine then you can go back to talking about quickscoping

Except I've already put forward a seemingly viable point to help in Quickscoping that no one has talked about or debunked. There's not much I can say about Quickscoping from this point onwards unless it's about a different game.

i wasn't the one trying to change the subject with all of this

Then there is no one trying to change the subject, with all of this.

and i didn't realize it was you who posted about comando i was actually wanted to know what you were talking about when you said comando because i thought you were talking about the black ops gun,

Here is the original post, I'll go through it bit by bit.

in mw2 their was a lot to counter quick scoping.
comando for one. most quick scoping is done at close-ish range, so someone using comando can kill them easily.


in mw2 their was a lot to counter quick scoping.

Implying he is talking about MW2.

comando for one.

There is only one Commando in MW2, but if you're still skeptical as you could be;

most quick scoping is done at close-ish range,

Why would an assault rifle from Black Ops have any more effect? Of course, he's talking about the perk, now!

with all that you've been accusing me of you might as well say

Not even sure this makes sense.

I'll carry on,
have fun in that auto-aiming one-shot-one-kill land

I bailed from that land years ago. You have no point.

i prefer to play in more normal people friendly environment

This just shows idiocy. If you're playing, and we're talking about Quickscopers, then it's an FPS. There's hardly a people-friendly environment.

What I accused you of was reasonable. The fact that you so poorly interpretted something was not my fault, I figured you had something better than that in mind. No, it was your mistake and attempt to cover it up by making it the equivilent of me calling you a racist is pathetic. Because it's an impertinent factor.

This is why you're much better off knowing what's being said, why having a good standard of English and being able to lack ambiguity (which was not the case for pickpocket) always helps in these conversations. Assuming something (unreasonably) made you look worse than asking what was meant by Commando -- although if you could ask yourself that it would make sense given 'close-ish' and 'MW2 counter to quickscoping'.

- Highfire rests his case.
Highfire
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to me you're almost as bad as one of the modders so since you clearly see modders as being higher than you in the gaming totem pole why don't you go mod your Xbox

I'll stop reading here.
Hrmm. It's rather humorous that I myself was somewhat ambiguous.

No. I do not condone the modding of controllers and of sorts. The modding of the game that everyone is subject to, usually only on the Computer, like in Call of Duty 4 or Skyrim. Those are the mods I was talking about.
But, you did put a fair amount of effort on the post, I guess, so I'll go through it.

or whatever system you have so that there's no aim-assist whatsoever and try quickscoping to see how well you can quickscope without aim-assist and as a plus for you,

I already did this. I had 95% accuracy with quickscoping on MW2 on all ranges on the PC which does not have aim-assist.

That was my first day doing it. This is why I argue that quickscoping is easy.

you would be one of the glorious modders.

I struggle to see what you're even talking about at this point.

what i meant was you can go play in your land of modding and one-shot-one-kill quickscopers,

This translates to "Land of hackers and smart people".
We're talking about the same game, right?
That, and I don't play this game. So whilst I can play it, I wouldn't subject myself to an imbalanced game with one of the widest, but poorest communities.

but i prefer to play in a more normal gamer friendly environment with everything the way it should be,

Quickscoping is the way it should be, because the developers have not stopped it from being viable.

And unless you want the game changed (but we're talking about the same game), you're quite wrong on saying Quickscoping ISN'T where it should be right now, because quickscoping is the most versatile and expedient ways to play.

but it's the console maker not the game so modding is always a bad thing with consoles

I wasn't talking about solely consoles. There's no real mod tools you have for the console that are legal unless it's included with the game (Halo Forge is considered a Mod Tool, because you can create your own Maps which if placed on a server would be modifying the map pool. Servers include private games, I believe).

why not, they're doing something illegal the very least you can do is report them.

Reporting is to ensure something is done about the person in question. Belittling does nothing.

Why not? I have standards.

well you might not have noticed or might not have wanted me to notice but that last post of your didn't have anything to do with quickscopers like you claimed to want to get back to,

I already talked about this. It's hard to have a conversation with myself, but even if I did pull myself to talk about quickscoping it would be the same conclusion as before -- Distance Travelled + Minimum Base Damage (- Penetrating Targets) = Damage Dealt.

so here's your chance oh you of little logic

My reason for not talking about quickscoping was more logical than talking about it soon after, just because I called you out (incorrectly but reasonably) on trying to change topic doesn't mean I automatically have to follow suit. The point stands in the thread and has not been talked about.

If we're going to traverse from this shallow discussion of CoD and our little stirring hatred, we mays well get more intricate with the actual formula that has been presented.

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GhostOfMatrix
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The question is if they're actually condoned.

They're allowed. Just like how the XiM3 thing for the Xbox 360 is allowed, it lets you to use a mouse and keyboard.
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